A Codex for Malal Stuff - Help needed

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**Tyranic Marta**

definitly

**yorkskargrimironklaw**

just play Captain Darnath Lysander as your Chaos Lord
that would do it.
he has 2+/3++ with Ethernal Warrior and was lost in the warp for 100 yrs ...
plus Bolter Drill and Bolster Defences will make CSM really good

just for fluff no Daemon Princess or marked CSM

**shingouki**

Dean889 wrote:Swap the number of elites and troops around (e.g. 6 elites and 3 troops), and make Malal's elites able to capture objectives, while troops can't.

That'll result in an elite based army, with troops only really used for fire support/tarpits.

Win.

**Matt.Kingsley**

I'll probably give some units the 'Does not take up a force slot but otherwise counts as ______' rule

**Matt.Kingsley**

Ok, so that force org done, on to more units!
I would like ideas!

**HAZZER**

Like to see a PDF of it if that's ok?

**Brennian**

maybe you could make rules for them as over powered gk?

**Matt.Kingsley**

HAZZER wrote:Like to see a PDF of it if that's ok?

If I figure out how to yes, if not, word

**The Zoat**

With CutePDF, you can convert word into PDF.

**Praxiss**

Just out of curiosity, what is Malas preferred method of war?

By which i mean ranged/cc? What's the view on malal Psykers?

if he hates everyone i would think that malal Psyker powers would revolve around enemy morale and Ld modifiers rather than pillars fo flame or clouds of noxious gas etc.

**King Pariah**

I'd imagine the tactics of those who serve Malal would be similar to a certain species of Wasps when attacking beehives. Divert most of the enemies attention to a few elite warriors that hold them in close combat, then a few other units go in and destroy the leadership whether it be from a distance or close up, though I think close up would be preferred to make the kill seem as if it were on a more personal level. Thus devastating troop morale and causing utter chaos.

So from that I think Malal would prefer close combat though I'm pretty sure he'd want each of his exalted troops to excel at whatever they are most skilled at, whether it be cc or shooting.

As for psykers, I wouldn't imagine that he wouldn't have a problem with them but I'd guess that they would be fairly rare but I do agree as to what they should target, morale and Leadership. However I think they would also be able to cause the enemy to attack themselves or their HQ choices.

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Also I think this may help a bit.

http://malal-lives.webs.com/

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and this

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37521

**Matt.Kingsley**

Thanks everyone for the input!
It's giving me loads of ideas

**Matt.Kingsley**

How is this for a troop choice (still needs a name):
(The stat line is that of a normal chaos space marine)

Spoiler:

**The Zoat**

My eyes are twitching, congrats!

**Matt.Kingsley**

Thanks!
As I said, though, it still needs a name...
Maybe 'Chaos Space Marine of Malal'

Anyway...

Chaos Cultist of Malal!

Spoiler:

How's that?

**King Pariah**

So far I got to admit I kinda like what I see for the most part. However does chaos have access to the infernus pistol? I always thought that was solely an Imperium item.

Also since Malal's number is 11, i think it'd be appropriate for some unit along the line to have a max size of 11. Perhaps the Doomed Ones who are his favored?

**Matt.Kingsley**

Meh, surely some chaos marines have access to infernus pistols.
As with the 11 number, sure, I can do something to do with that.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Could some other people see if these units are OP or not?

**King Pariah**

Well, the point of Malal is to have a few powerful characters. perhaps the amount of units you've permitted to have taken is a little much, but I'd imagine otherwise it's fine.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Ok, any other opinions?

**Matt.Kingsley**

New unit!

Spoiler:

**Tyranic Marta**

Sounds like the minimum number of cltist squads you can have is 10, ie you HAVE to have 10 in ur list, was this an oversight or is there a purpose for it? If there is a Purpose why not make the number 11 rather than 10 cause of his "ima gotta have ma speshal number" thing that most of the chaos gods do???

just food for thought

other wise i think all this stuff is great

love it how youve kicked the FOC, However you need to mention that the troops choice even though it doesnt take up any FOC slots still fills out the required 2 troops

Loving the Marines, can see myself fielding entire armies of these puppies

EDIT

i think that the possessed champ could do with a points hike. with potential I5 S5 4+ rending hes a bit nuts (with furious charge)

and even with the 4+ reding on its own hes a bit cheap at 32? 33? points

**Matt.Kingsley**

Lol it's meant to be 0-20

**Tyranic Marta**

thought that may have been a mistake

**Matt.Kingsley**

Yeah the possessed champion is a bit much for less, as for troops, I have a speacial plan for that

**King Pariah**

looking forward to moar.

**Tyranic Marta**

and oh? would like to hear this plan of yours for your troops choices

**Matt.Kingsley**

Worshippers
In other words, weak cultists you worship malal fully (unit size of 11) and are psykers. similar to the psyker battle squads but more BA (Not blood anges lol)

**Tyranic Marta**

bad ass? sounds good, looking forwards to chaos fially hving a decent pysker troops choce

**Matt.Kingsley**

yep.

Better version of soulstorm
And other more awesome, psychic powers