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kenneydee wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:I think you're asking a partial question that is going to give you enough misinformation to make an poor decision.

They both have a role, and their role heavily depends on the kind of Ork army it is.

Very true. I actually was considering starting a small Ork army. There are basically no Ork players at my local GW, so I have yet to play against them. I guess I was just looking to see what people like and don't like about each. It seems about even with the poll right now. Considering the responses, it seems safe to incorporate both in my army.

Then you've truly received bad advice.

Each to their own, Dash.

I have both types in my army. It allows me to pick a WYSYWYG unit for my list instead of counts-as. I also use them in combination in my lists, for different roles.

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't make them wrong

Ignore Dash, he just doesn't like it when people disagree with him

Actually I got advice a while back to use some of both from an Ork dedicated forum. Several, in fact. And honestly, it fits visually anyway.

Have to agree fluffwise/visually as well as gamewise on that

I can't imagine orks only using one of the two options, fluffwise.

A lot of the top qualifying Adepticon Ork armies used nothing but sluggas boyz. Hm....

i run both weapons in my army, i like to have mobs of shoota boys attack lightly armoured guys, such as Guardsmen, their shootas will be able to kill a few of them, therefor reducing the attacks they can deal back at my boyz, causing me to suffer minimal losses, but when your fighting heavy armour guys, like the Marines, take sluggas and alot of boys, the bullets wont do diddly, but its worth havin 2 attacks against the marines , so it basically depends on what army your fighting.
Sluggas: good vs heavy armour because of extra melee attack
Shootas: good vs light armour because the bullets will soften enemy for the following assault

Shootas on foot, sluggas on trukks. Putting the shootas with a KFF or behind a Kan Wall is a good idea, by the way.

Belexar wrote:Shootas on foot, sluggas on trukks. Putting the shootas with a KFF or behind a Kan Wall is a good idea, by the way.

That would work, but again it alll depends on what the armour valu is on your enemy, Shootas would work well against armies such as the Guard, Nids (Sorta), Eldar, and other lightly armoured enemies, but heavy armour such as marines and stuff, you need to hit em more than once with a big , sharp hunk of metal.

Shootas shoot twice. In a group of thirty, they shoot sixty times. Sixty-three if you mix them with Big Shootas, which also have better stats and range.

also note is you do slugga choppa you can just (or at least what i claim) use them as shoota boys with a decorative chopp, or use them as slugga choppa boys... plus I'm cheap and AoBR boys are practically free on ebay

Completly depends on the rest of my list....

SHOOTAS! 156 boyz all armed with Shootas in a standard game?!?!?! Yes please!!

I have units of boyz with both, but as I rely almost completely on my Nobz to do the real damage, they're kind of a secondary concern. Generally, though, I prefer shootas, partially because they're somewhat more versatile, but also because they look awesome on the models.

Both. I only have slugga boys which is some times good while some times I just need some shootas for that extra bit of range or that extra shot.

i dont play orks but I know that seeing as ork shooting isn't the best, I'd go with sluggas and choppas for the extra attack in close combat! This advantage imo is better than having slightly better shooting that in all likelihood will miss, when (if charging) you could potentially have 4 attacks per six point model!

Sledgio wrote:i dont play orks but I know that seeing as ork shooting isn't the best, I'd go with sluggas and choppas for the extra attack in close combat! This advantage imo is better than having slightly better shooting that in all likelihood will miss, when (if charging) you could potentially have 4 attacks per six point model!

That's the point. You want as many shots as possible to counter the low accuracy. Mobs of 30 boyz with shootaz is SCARY.

This thread pops up about twice a week, and depending on who answers it come out either as shootas or sluggas being the best. The poll reflects this perfectly.

In a decent Ork army, you'll have AT LEAST two trukks loaded with slugga boyz and a large mob of shoota boyz. The shootas are good on large mobs. The sluggas go on trukks for the speed. Flat Out, go at it some more, unload and assault. The shoota boyz run untill they're at shooting range and do as much damage as they can. Their numbers and daka make up for their low acuracy. If you're worried about them being killed, put them near a KFF or behind a Kan wall

so true. so so true. Choppas and Sluggas are great if they don't have to hoof it all the way to the frontline. so Trukks would be great

I have a mix. I've got a bunch of sluggas thanks to AoBR, but every boy I've built from the normal kit has been a shoota. That should tell you something about my leanings.

Shootas

Oh wow as of 10:02 PM EST, it is 56 votes to 56 votes.

Now, before you decide, the answer is shoota. This was obviously a multiple choice question.

26 shootas = 52 shots
OK so your BS is 2. Well guess what? 2 shots as BS2 = 1 shot at BS4 (not exactly as 2 shots at BS2 is actually BETTER than 1 shot at BS4, though only slightly).
So that would be about 26 bolter bolters firing. Two whole 10 man tactical squads.

Doesn't sound so bad now eh?

I love it when people who never play orks scoff at my ork shooting. Then it becomes my 15 loota's turn to shoot. Or mob of 30 boyz with 3 rokkits.
(yes I'm the only ork player in long island, NY, USA, apparently)