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Great batrep, I'd love to play a game with my biotitan sometime but my friends are all scared of it's killyness.

As an aside - Had you considered taking trygons as IA versions for 300 points each? That would grant them higher toughness as well as gargantuan status, and the turbo laser would only have dealt them a wound or two instead of killing them outright. Also I'd love to try out the bioshock brood formation, have you used it to any effect in your games yet?

@Ratius & Orkymike:

Thanks!

tetrisphreak wrote:Great batrep, I'd love to play a game with my biotitan sometime but my friends are all scared of it's killyness.

As an aside - Had you considered taking trygons as IA versions for 300 points each? That would grant them higher toughness as well as gargantuan status, and the turbo laser would only have dealt them a wound or two instead of killing them outright. Also I'd love to try out the bioshock brood formation, have you used it to any effect in your games yet?

Yeah, I did consider the IA trygon, but I didn't think he was worth it. 100pts more expensive for an inferior unit (statwise, at least). Honestly, my fear wasn't the destroyer weapon. It's more of death by mass exorcist/melta/rending boltguns. My main mistake was putting the 2 of them close enough to be taken out by 1 shot.

No, I'm not familiar with and haven't tried the bioshock brood formation. What is it and how does it work? Sounds interesting (and I've got 4 trygons + 2 mawlocs).

Is it really sporting to take older rules when there are new rules replacing them?

Theduke07 wrote:Is it really sporting to take older rules when there are new rules replacing them?

That depends. Older rules aren't necessarily better. As a matter of fact, I think the apoc rules for the Trygon is worse than the newer tyranid rules.

Sometimes, there are different rules for the same unit. For example, the imperial guard valkyrie. I think the newer IG has the better valkyries. However, in the apoc book, the valkyrie, while not as efficient for the costs, is a flyer (which regular 40K doesn't have). Thus, you can say they're 2 completely different rulesets for the same unit. The thing is, you should declare which one you are using beforehand and pay for its respective points.

What I think would be unsporting is if you take the same unit from the previous version of the book for some benefits. For example, the Chaos Spawn is in both the newer Apoc book as well as the older IA apoc books. There's not much difference between the 2 except that the Chaos Spawn is much, much cheaper in the older IA apoc books. That would be like me taking the flyrants from the older 4th edition tyranid codex because they were much cheaper and can have a 2+ save over the same flyrant from the newer codex. But taking a more expensive, gargantuan trygon with worse stats over the cheaper, non-gargantuan trygon IMO isn't unsporting. My only caveat is that it's declared ahead of time, and you're consistent and use the same rules for all the trygons.

Thank you very much for the effort - a fun read!

The bioshock brood is a formation consisting of 3+ trygons. At least one must be trygon prime (they all can be though) and is nominated as the 'alpha'. As long as all models are within 6" of the alpha, they get a 4+ invulnerable save and may re-roll all to-hit and to-wound rolls for their bioelectric shock shooting attacks. I forget the cost, i think its 150 + models, it's in a White Dwarf issue that came out a month or so after the new 'nid codex was released.


There's also a formation in the same issue that uses lictors, hormagaunts, and a trygon all deployed in a special way. After they hit the table, the trygon's hole spawns hormagaunts in the same fashion as a tervigon spawns gaunts. That should be a codex rule to get some actual use of the trygon hole in normal games, IMO.

@Thor665:

Thanks. It was a fun battle as well.


@tetrisphreak:

Doesn't seem like a formation I would use until I get to much higher games (maybe 10K). I much prefer formations that would benefit the army over the units. Endless Swarm gives the entire army unlimited scoring units and re-usable volume of fire/attacks. Then Eye of the Hive gives practically the entire army (if positioned properly) Preferred Enemy and FNP. These 2 are going to be my primary formations from now on.