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Best memory I have about my Deff Dread is it taking a single plasma pistol shot from Death Company right between the eyes and blowing up. Was in my first game back with Orks in 5th.

It made me sad.

I think every Deffdredd dies horribly and quickly in its first game. I know Mine got munched on by a 4th edition Carnifex the first time I got to use it. Don't think it even got to strike back. Of course, that was before I knew about MC AP, and that AV12 was pretty much impervious to small troops CC.

only used Dreads once, and it was a total rout..... That was in my shooty ork list however, with 42 Lootaz, 2 Meks with SAGs, and some Kans and a Looted Wagon...

Vichyssoise wrote:The no invun is made up for through by a silly Toughness 6. Boyz wounding on 6s.... He's not impossible to kill, but certainly OP...

Lascannons and plasma should be firing at him in other armies to get around the 2+ save. Orks will need weight of numbers and a power klaw.


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BlkTom wrote:Best memory I have about my Deff Dread is it taking a single plasma pistol shot from Death Company right between the eyes and blowing up. Was in my first game back with Orks in 5th.

It made me sad.

First time I used two Dreads was in this list and both did nothing and got killed! :(

Anvildude wrote:I think every Deffdredd dies horribly and quickly in its first game. I know Mine got munched on by a 4th edition Carnifex the first time I got to use it. Don't think it even got to strike back. Of course, that was before I knew about MC AP, and that AV12 was pretty much impervious to small troops CC.

Mine have never done anything. Two died first time running a Kan wall then third time tried them again and I think just about took out a Chimera that was it!

Vichyssoise wrote:only used Dreads once, and it was a total rout..... That was in my shooty ork list however, with 42 Lootaz, 2 Meks with SAGs, and some Kans and a Looted Wagon...

Poor Deff Dreads :(

A big mob of 30 boys should do the job of tarpitting him, tho not for long.... He goes through half the mob per turn if all goes well!

I think they'd get through Meph. He's got 6 attacks I think hitting on a 3+ and wounding a 2+. Orks will cause probably 1-2 wounds normally and then the Nob which will probably cause 1-2 wounds - has Meph got 6 wounds or 4?

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Meph is hitting on 3+ rerolling, and wounding on 2s...
Thats about.... 5 dead orks?? Or there abouts... And this is assuming he's not got friends with him...And ofc the one he'll shoot on the way in!!! ^^ Orks lose by 2-3 then, so total dead, about 8?? That means they have 2-3 turns to kill him..

Orks, hitting on erm.... 4s or 5s??? He's WS 9+?? And wounding on 6s....
he'll losr 1, maybe 2 wounds as you said, plus one from the Nob???


yeah, maybe large boys mobz are the way to go with him!!!

hopefully Meph would have took some wounds too while on the way into the fight.

I find he rarely does... He's good at hiding behind scenery!!

He doesn't like plasma and lascannons though!

I got a nob with a paint job he won by killing Meph twice in CC. Meph is a beast but hidden powerklaws eat him if he gets locked long enough T6 or not. He has wiped out a squad of 20 boyz though, in two turns I believe, he got the charge, then my tunr, then his turn he finished 'em. I'm pretty sure about that too. Took like one wound.
5+to hit...maybe it was4+, 6's to wound, then his 2+save, not gonna happen alot. He has 5 wounds I think, whatever, on a Prohet Ghaz kills him. I mean, he's killable but he earns his points most games. Defkoptas useless against him, kans going to get mauled, Trukks shattered, Warbosses slaughtered, Warbikes wasted because he can jum 12, he's a pain. He and Termies are the reason I go against the norm and run KMB's on my Kans instead of Rokkits; 5 more points for AP 2 and people knock it...why?

I was also tempted to take small mobs of 5 burnas, and put three meks in there with KMBs.. Yes, i realise that they will route at even a little damage, but its a nice surprise to have 3 KMBs popping off str 8 AP2 at hard stuff!!! ^^

Meph costs as much as a landraider, I think throwing less points than that at him and expecting to kill him is silly. If I had to throw an Ork mob and a half at him to kill him it would be worth it imo since hes usually the really scary assault element in an army.

Against Shoots boyz w/o the charge (assuming you get 20 of the 30 in to attack) they will put down 3 or so normal wounds a turn which is about half a wound. Then the nob throws in around 1 wound a turn and that is 1.5 wounds a turn (if you have only average luck, get 3 hits with the nob and you can strip them off really fast) Even losing 8 boyz a turn you really don't drop that much combat efficacy until the second round starts.

Ha! Yes, the KMB spam! I been working on this for a while, now. The 2 Burnaz, 3 Meks, KMBs on Kans. Don't forget that Deffkoptas can take some really, really cheap KMBs too- cheaper than the Rokkits, and you can get up to 15 Deffkoptas in a list.

KMB spam sounds kind of fun, I'm gonna proxy my next game under these ideals... thank you for the thought. Man, I wonder if that will be any good...?

Have you though about Snikrot to shrink the field a bit for you?

Given the potential of a Waaagh!, having a unit of boyz pop out of the opponent's backfield would mean he either inches up closer to you or takes his chances with a whole mess of boyz smacking his rear armor.

Another option is to help screen your army; rokkit buggies. Adding in a squadron or three helps divert attention away from your boyz.

Not a fan of Kommandos. I fail to see what they do besides the outflank on any table edge with Snitrot. They have burnas and can burn stuff, oh wow, they have rokkits which can miss and just assault after like any other Ork and because small units they won't last a huge amount of time. I don't feel they are a big threat TBH.

I find Deffkoptas are better than Warbuggies.