BT Codex = Not Likely?

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**purplefood**

Seaward wrote:

purplefood wrote:
Zweischneid wrote:

Well, better give it to Kelly than I suppose.

Than we'll get Black-claw-wielding, Black-belt-wearing Black Templar Cavalry riding Templar-steeds into battle, preferably under water, scuba-Templar-style, while horny neophites kidnap the Chapter's Thunderhawks for a raunchy night out. We will lern that Helbrecht is "the most intelligent Templar ever", though he still has a healthy inferiority complex as he was always been under-estimated (though we never get to know any specifics or events that would illustrate blatantly expositionary character-writing). The most useful unit in the Codex will obviously be Devastators who can double-tap their heavy weapons at 5 different targets while fleet-charging. Black Templars also get D6 extra HS-slots in the FOC just to be different. The Emperor's Champion meanwhile is sulking away on a super-mysterious Champion-quest in his one private Champion-Dimension with his Champion-Sword that will instigate the end of the universe. On some off-planet, Grimaldus will have defeated a Tyranid Hive Fleet all by himself. Glorious times ahead.

You seem to be mistaking Kelly for Ward...

No, Kelly most definitely wrote the Space Wolves Codex, and the post you quoted was most definitely a riff on the over-the-top nature of that particular book.

The OTT bit is what i was talking about. The SW book isn't quite that ridiculous, the TWC is almost there but the rest of it is fine IMO.

**Seaward**

purplefood wrote:
The OTT bit is what i was talking about. The SW book isn't quite that ridiculous, the TWC is almost there but the rest of it is fine IMO.

Eh. Whether the units themselves are over the top or not is a debate I don't want to get into. It's hard to disagree that the fluff and naming conventions aren't, though. Wolf Wolfborn riding his Thunderwolf, wearing his Wolf Tail Talisman and Wolf Tooth Necklace, wielding a pair of Wolf Claws and accompanied by his two wolves while shouting about the Wolftime.

**purplefood**

Seaward wrote:
purplefood wrote:
The OTT bit is what i was talking about. The SW book isn't quite that ridiculous, the TWC is almost there but the rest of it is fine IMO.

Eh. Whether the units themselves are over the top or not is a debate I don't want to get into. It's hard to disagree that the fluff and naming conventions aren't, though. Wolf Wolfborn riding his Thunderwolf, wearing his Wolf Tail Talisman and Wolf Tooth Necklace, wielding a pair of Wolf Claws and accompanied by his two wolves while shouting about the Wolftime.

There are 4 things in the new SW codex that have wolf in that weren't in the previous book.
TWC + Canis who i think we can all agree are ridiculous and should never have seen the light of day.
Lone Wolves who frankly are great and what else are you gonna call them?
Wolf Claws not a massive change from lightning claws but not a massive boat rocker.

Everything else was in the previous edition.

**Seaward**

purplefood wrote:
There are 4 things in the new SW codex that have wolf in that weren't in the previous book.
TWC + Canis who i think we can all agree are ridiculous and should never have seen the light of day.
Lone Wolves who frankly are great and what else are you gonna call them?
Wolf Claws not a massive change from lightning claws but not a massive boat rocker.

Everything else was in the previous edition.

Doesn't change the fact that I'd dearly like to not see everything in a new Black Templar codex prefixed needlessly by, "Crusader," "Knight," or "Black". And I'm really, really dreading the dumbfeth cavalry they'll come up with. We all know they're giving the knight chapter cavalry.

**purplefood**

Seaward wrote:
purplefood wrote:
There are 4 things in the new SW codex that have wolf in that weren't in the previous book.
TWC + Canis who i think we can all agree are ridiculous and should never have seen the light of day.
Lone Wolves who frankly are great and what else are you gonna call them?
Wolf Claws not a massive change from lightning claws but not a massive boat rocker.

Everything else was in the previous edition.

Doesn't change the fact that I'd dearly like to not see everything in a new Black Templar codex prefixed needlessly by, "Crusader," "Knight," or "Black". And I'm really, really dreading the dumbfeth cavalry they'll come up with. We all know they're giving the knight chapter cavalry.

That's nice, but point to a supposed parallel doesn't make any sense...

**kronk**

Meh. If by Knight Cavalry you mean bikes, so what? Do what I do now. Ignore the Black Templar bike squad entry.

In a new codex, we'll probably still have the mixed scout/marine 20-man squads, some form of Righteous Zeal, and vows.

I'm preparing to say goodbye to Accept Any Challenge's ability to have preferred enemy: you!

I'm ready to say goodbye to buying grenades.

A big concern if fluff. "BA giving fist bumps to Necrons" concerned. "The Black Templars were told they would never be as cool as Ultramarines so they went on a 10,000 year crusade in a huff" concerned. To whomever writes a new BT codex: Don't make the Templars a joke, man.

**Movac**

Helbrecht needs to be bumped up to 250-275 and given some badass stats.

**Seaward**

kronk wrote:Meh. If by Knight Cavalry you mean bikes, so what? Do what I do now. Ignore the Black Templar bike squad entry.

Bikes I'd be fine with, but I don't mean bikes. I mean mutated horses or whatever they come up with to rival the idiocy of Thunderwolf Cavalry.

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Movac wrote:Helbrecht needs to be bumped up to 250-275 and given some badass stats.

That'd work. We need an Eternal Warrior or two.

Honestly, I half wish they'd just import the options you can give a Wolf Lord.