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Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that innocent gamers deserve to have their private information scattered around the internet and given to asshats to to with it what they will, because they buy from a certain developer?

I suppose you also condone their actions against the Minecraft servers as well; damn Mojang and their undeserved right to create a game for the millions of players world-wide who already enoy it, damn them!!

They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Did I mention anything about Minecraft? Please learn to read before engaging me.

Answer the full question, do the players deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company?

As for Minecraft, your lack of mentioning it is completely irrelevant; based on your current thoughts about the Bethesda hacking, I suggested that you would also condone the Minecraft hacking too. I never said you mentioned it, in fact, I am the one bringing it up, and you have yet to give your stance.

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that innocent gamers deserve to have their private information scattered around the internet and given to asshats to to with it what they will, because they buy from a certain developer?

I suppose you also condone their actions against the Minecraft servers as well; damn Mojang and their undeserved right to create a game for the millions of players world-wide who already enoy it, damn them!!

They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Every time I think you've said something ridiculously facepalmworthy, you say something else. Bravo sir.

I'm still kind of curious as to why you keep saying "pumping out sub-par DLC content" when most of it is done near the launch and then released over a time period they set forth.

Did I mention anything about Minecraft? Please learn to read before engaging me.

I'd suggest you start reading articles before spewing rhetoric.

Bethesda was not the only site hit by "Lulsec". They hit Minecraft, League of Legends, EVE Online, and Bethesda.

This alone should show you that they have no real goals or overarching ambitions. They're doing it to anger the customers against the companies, but it won't really work. The companies can just claim (truthfully in many cases) that the information was secured against most hacking attempts, but not the scale or breadth of what was being done by Lulsec.

Do you expect a security system on your house to stop a tank? No. You expect it to stop burglars, and the same is overall true here as well.

Avatar 720 wrote:

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that innocent gamers deserve to have their private information scattered around the internet and given to asshats to to with it what they will, because they buy from a certain developer?

I suppose you also condone their actions against the Minecraft servers as well; damn Mojang and their undeserved right to create a game for the millions of players world-wide who already enoy it, damn them!!

They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Did I mention anything about Minecraft? Please learn to read before engaging me.

Answer the full question, do the players deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company?

As for Minecraft, your lack of mentioning it is completely irrelevant; based on your current thoughts about the Bethesda hacking, I suggested that you would also condone the Minecraft hacking too. I never said you mentioned it, in fact, I am the one bringing it up, and you have yet to give your stance.

Again, please learn to read. The US is supposed have terrible education, yet the UK keeps producing more trashy-people like yourself. I did in fact say "they deserve it"

As for your second sentence....at least you admit you're a presumptuous simpleton.

People don't feed the troll, come on it's common Internet knowledge at this point.

On topic, while I think all the hacking they are doing is wrong it's really exposing a reality that has needed to be shown for a very long time. Many of the methods that Lulz is using to get into these various systems are really low tech. Like script kiddie kinds of things. Any company of of any decent size should not be taken to the cleaners the way they have been. These companies need to update all of their software, close off all ports not used for specific reasons on their servers, use well setup and maintained firewalls. And as Sony seems criminally incapable of doing, ENCRYPT ALL OF YOUR PRIVATE DATA!!!!! All of that is very simple stuff that they are just not doing.

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that innocent gamers deserve to have their private information scattered around the internet and given to asshats to to with it what they will, because they buy from a certain developer?

I suppose you also condone their actions against the Minecraft servers as well; damn Mojang and their undeserved right to create a game for the millions of players world-wide who already enoy it, damn them!!

They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Did I mention anything about Minecraft? Please learn to read before engaging me.

Answer the full question, do the players deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company?

As for Minecraft, your lack of mentioning it is completely irrelevant; based on your current thoughts about the Bethesda hacking, I suggested that you would also condone the Minecraft hacking too. I never said you mentioned it, in fact, I am the one bringing it up, and you have yet to give your stance.

Again, please learn to read. The US is supposed have terrible education, yet the UK keeps producing more trashy-people like yourself. I did in fact say "they deserve it"

As for your second sentence....at least you admit you're a presumptuous simpleton.

*Sigh* I shall try once more, and read slowly this time: Do they deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company? I don't care about DLCs or whatever other garbage you're using to evade the point, answer the question.

Your attempt to scare me or provoke me on the second point has also failed; your stance on the Bethesda hacking is such that you appear to have no pity whatsoever, would I be correct in assuming the same for players of Minecraft, or not?

P.S. It'd do you good to take your own advice and learn to read. My second point consisted of two sentences.

Kanluwen wrote:
They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.
Every time I think you've said something ridiculously facepalmworthy, you say something else. Bravo sir.

I'm still kind of curious as to why you keep saying "pumping out sub-par DLC content" when most of it is done near the launch and then released over a time period they set forth.

So it's a company that purposely leaves content out of games only to release it to further their profits later? Trashy company, supported by trashy people.

Kanluwen wrote:I'd suggest you start reading articles before spewing rhetoric.

Bethesda was not the only site hit by "Lulsec". They hit Minecraft, League of Legends, EVE Online, and Bethesda.

This alone should show you that they have no real goals or overarching ambitions. They're doing it to anger the customers against the companies, but it won't really work. The companies can just claim (truthfully in many cases) that the information was secured against most hacking attempts, but not the scale or breadth of what was being done by Lulsec.

Do you expect a security system on your house to stop a tank? No. You expect it to stop burglars, and the same is overall true here as well.

You missed it just as Badteeth McAvatar did, I did not say I support lulzsec as a whole. I support the plight of Bethesda and the degenerates that buy their games.




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Avatar 720 wrote:

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:

Movac wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:So what you're saying is that innocent gamers deserve to have their private information scattered around the internet and given to asshats to to with it what they will, because they buy from a certain developer?

I suppose you also condone their actions against the Minecraft servers as well; damn Mojang and their undeserved right to create a game for the millions of players world-wide who already enoy it, damn them!!

They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Did I mention anything about Minecraft? Please learn to read before engaging me.

Answer the full question, do the players deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company?

As for Minecraft, your lack of mentioning it is completely irrelevant; based on your current thoughts about the Bethesda hacking, I suggested that you would also condone the Minecraft hacking too. I never said you mentioned it, in fact, I am the one bringing it up, and you have yet to give your stance.

Again, please learn to read. The US is supposed have terrible education, yet the UK keeps producing more trashy-people like yourself. I did in fact say "they deserve it"

As for your second sentence....at least you admit you're a presumptuous simpleton.

*Sigh* I shall try once more, and read slowly this time: Do they deserve to suffer because a group dislikes a company? I don't care about DLCs or whatever other garbage you're using to evade the point, answer the question.

Your attempt to scare me or provoke me on the second point has also failed; your stance on the Bethesda hacking is such that you appear to have no pity whatsoever, would I be correct in assuming the same for players of Minecraft, or not?

P.S. It'd do you good to take your own advice and learn to read. My second point consisted of two sentences.

I'm not retyping an answer that fully sufficed two posts.

Ohh Adolf, why didn't you commit every panzer division to a full out attack on Dunkirk. I would not have to suffer this anglo-trash.

Movac wrote: Please learn to read before engaging me.

For people to engage you would require that you have the mental acuity to form a logical argument.

As is, you're simply mouth piecing the same things that every conspiracy theorist does.

People, don't feed the troll, please.

Movac wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Movac wrote:
They deserve it for supporting a company that places priority on pumping out sub-par DLC content rather than security and their personal information.

Every time I think you've said something ridiculously facepalmworthy, you say something else. Bravo sir.

I'm still kind of curious as to why you keep saying "pumping out sub-par DLC content" when most of it is done near the launch and then released over a time period they set forth.

So it's a company that purposely leaves content out of games only to release it to further their profits later? Trashy company, supported by trashy people.

Boofreakinghoo. It's no different to any company that did expansion packs in the 90's.

By the by, I fixed your quote fail. I'm sure one of your hacker buddies would have had some lulz at your expense otherwise. Can't have that, right?

Kanluwen wrote:I'd suggest you start reading articles before spewing rhetoric.

Bethesda was not the only site hit by "Lulsec". They hit Minecraft, League of Legends, EVE Online, and Bethesda.

This alone should show you that they have no real goals or overarching ambitions. They're doing it to anger the customers against the companies, but it won't really work. The companies can just claim (truthfully in many cases) that the information was secured against most hacking attempts, but not the scale or breadth of what was being done by Lulsec.

Do you expect a security system on your house to stop a tank? No. You expect it to stop burglars, and the same is overall true here as well.

You missed it just as Badteeth McAvatar did, I did not say I support lulzsec as a whole. I support the plight of Bethesda and the degenerates that buy their games.

This is, once again, facepalm worthy. How do you keep doing it?!

So you're saying that you could support the Czechian 'freedom fighters' who bombed Beslan or tried to massacre the Moscow Theater because the Russian government is corrupt? You could support Timothy McVeigh's bombing of Oklahoma City because the US government could be corrupt? Or the World Trade Center attacks because hey, America is the Great Satan?

Please. You've got no leg to stand on, you very well know it, and are just trying to get a rise out of people.
Your excuse of "supporting the plight of Betheseda and the degenerates that buy their games" is no different than the tools who justify pirating music because iTunes requires a credit card or justify pirating games because the company wants to use DRM.

I'm not retyping an answer that fully sufficed two posts.

Nor I a question that is obviously too taxing for its recipient.

Platuan4th wrote:

Movac wrote: Please learn to read before engaging me.

For people to engage you would require that you have the mental acuity to form a logical argument.

As is, you're simply mouth piecing the same things that every conspiracy theorist does.

People, don't feed the troll, please.

And on that note, I'm going to enjoy a cigar on my balcony. Keep the thread warm so I have something to do when I return.

I think not.