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Question wrote:Except that you are wrong.

"Also it doesnt make sense to measure from the center instead of the rear."
"You should fire 10 inches short of the rear, not the center."

And then the follow up... "Except that you are wrong". You're really redefining debate there, aren't you?

10 inches from center of a 2 inch base. Rolls 6, bounces 2, misses by 1 inch. If it was 10 inches short from the rear of a 2 inch base, roll 6, bounce 2, you would hit it and would still have 0% chance to overshoot.

First up, nothing has a 2 inch base, the 50mm base is just short of 2 inches, if placed 10" from the rear any shot that terminated as 8", like 2 then 6 would fall short. Second and more importantly, you're assuming a single target. Obviously the numbers will be different for a single model, because they're you're removing the risk of overpentration.

sebster wrote:
First up, nothing has a 2 inch base, the 50mm base is just short of 2 inches, if placed 10" from the rear any shot that terminated as 8", like 2 then 6 would fall short. Second and more importantly, you're assuming a single target. Obviously the numbers will be different for a single model, because they're you're removing the risk of overpentration.

You're incorrect on that.
A cav base (25mm x 50mm) can be as long as 2.2"
A monster base (50mm x 50mm) can have a long dimension as big as 2.78"
Anything over 2" but less than 4" doesn't make a difference in sniping a single model. Over 2 is the critical point.
Bust out a tap measure.

The correct aim point is 10" forward of the far back Corner. While a cannon shot is a line, the target is an area. Maximize the liner aspect of the target.

-Matt

HawaiiMatt wrote:You're incorrect on that.

If the cannon is firing across the unit.

Actually, that's an interesting ploy... no matter where an individual monster is, at the end of the turn rotate it to face the cannon directly that way you get that tiny bit of distance... which might make all the difference. Though that would likely be offset by your ploy of firing 'across' the unit - would be interesting to see this in play.

The correct aim point is 10" forward of the far back Corner. While a cannon shot is a line, the target is an area. Maximize the liner aspect of the target.

Again... that is assuming a single target. If you're looking at hitting a unit then the centre is the ideal place to target. Placing a shot 10" back from the rear of the unit means you're going to get a lot cannon balls landing in the middle of the unit, then rolling out the back, missing out on much of its potential killing.

I mentioned Single target, you chose not to quote that part.

-Matt

HawaiiMatt wrote:I mentioned Single target, you chose not to quote that part.

-Matt

I know that's what you were talking about when you gave your example, I was just trying to say that same argument doesn't hold for multiple troop units.

Sorry for the confusion, I'm not trying to have an argument here.


Also, just thinking about it, for a single target 10" short of the farthest corner, or 8" from the closest corner produce identical results... though one or the other might be preferable if there are other potential targets.