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Mike101 wrote:I know that dennouceing the Big E is a no-no and giveing your soul tot he chaos Gods but where is the line darwn from ok to heretical thought an action.

A) If normal Joe who lives on a hive world works a normal job has a family and all but when hes got time to kill he workships a Chaos God but dose not dennouce the big E..... heretic or non HERETIC!

B)Space Marines or Guardsmen takeing iteams off of the dead chaos Space marines/deamons as spoils of conquest.....herrtical or no Depends on item, but just to be on the safe side... HERETIC!

C) random Guardsmen Billy just dosent believe in the Big E he wont dennounce him or openly say it but deep down he just dosent have 100% for the Big E...Heretic or no HERETIC!... although he can probably get away with it as long as he keeps his mouth shut and pretends otherwise.

D) Traitor Guardsmen like to the Tau who still worship the Big E but hold there service to the Tau Empire...Heretics or no HERETIC AND TRAITOR!

on a side question what happens if your braneded a heretic is it possible to repent or dose the Inqustion just send them to the stake like the spanish inqustion

The Spanish Inquisition didn't just burn you at the stake, they were far more cruel and inventive than that. Anyway, to "repent" means you die quick. Otherwise, you get tortured and die slow. As the old quote goes, "There is no verdict of innocence in my courtroom! A plea of innocence is guilty of wasting my time. GUILTY!"

Oh, and by the way, by bringing up these questions in the first place, you are guilty of, you guessed it.... HERESY!

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If you think, even for a moment, that something might be heresy, well....


   
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I concur.

A) Heresy
B) Heresy!
C) ...heresy
D) HERESY!

Also, asking about whether they are heresy: HERESY!!!

/Puritanical Inquisitor.

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If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

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Gathering the Informations.

squidhills wrote:If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

We don't actually know that, 100% for certain.

Chaos makes extensive use of corrupted Imperial equipment. In Vraks we saw an example of the Imperium "reconsecrating" equipment that Chaos had corrupted.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
squidhills wrote:If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

We don't actually know that, 100% for certain.

Chaos makes extensive use of corrupted Imperial equipment. In Vraks we saw an example of the Imperium "reconsecrating" equipment that Chaos had corrupted.


Even if they weren't made in the Eye, Marneus did pull them off a Chaos Champion he killed. And example B was "taking equipment/trophies from defeated Chaos stuff" which sounds a lot like what Calgar did to me...

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Gathering the Informations.

squidhills wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
squidhills wrote:If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

We don't actually know that, 100% for certain.

Chaos makes extensive use of corrupted Imperial equipment. In Vraks we saw an example of the Imperium "reconsecrating" equipment that Chaos had corrupted.


Even if they weren't made in the Eye, Marneus did pull them off a Chaos Champion he killed. And example B was "taking equipment/trophies from defeated Chaos stuff" which sounds a lot like what Calgar did to me...

And the Death Korps, with Inquisitorial approval no less, took warmachines that had been under Chaos service for the duration of the war and used them.

Reconsecration, in the eyes of the Imperium, is what's important.
   
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squidhills wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
squidhills wrote:If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

We don't actually know that, 100% for certain.

Chaos makes extensive use of corrupted Imperial equipment. In Vraks we saw an example of the Imperium "reconsecrating" equipment that Chaos had corrupted.


Even if they weren't made in the Eye, Marneus did pull them off a Chaos Champion he killed. And example B was "taking equipment/trophies from defeated Chaos stuff" which sounds a lot like what Calgar did to me...

Grimnar did the same with his axe.
The 13th company are forced to scavenge armour pieces from defeated CSMs all the time.

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No one scavenges from the Emperor's Children though, because all their equipment is always sticky for some reason.

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Omegus wrote:No one scavenges from the Emperor's Children though, because all their equipment is always sticky for some reason.


And they don't smell as manly as other traitor legion weapons.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
squidhills wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
squidhills wrote:If B is Heresy, then somebody needs to BLAM Marneus Calgar, 'cause those power fists of his have "Made in the Eye of Terror" stamped on the bottom.

We don't actually know that, 100% for certain.

Chaos makes extensive use of corrupted Imperial equipment. In Vraks we saw an example of the Imperium "reconsecrating" equipment that Chaos had corrupted.


Even if they weren't made in the Eye, Marneus did pull them off a Chaos Champion he killed. And example B was "taking equipment/trophies from defeated Chaos stuff" which sounds a lot like what Calgar did to me...

And the Death Korps, with Inquisitorial approval no less, took warmachines that had been under Chaos service for the duration of the war and used them.

Reconsecration, in the eyes of the Imperium, is what's important.


Well wouldnt space marines have less to worrie about since they have 110% devotion to the Big E.

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Who wants to be the one to tell Calgar his gauntlets are heretical...

Anyway, space marines have a longer leash than the imperial guard. Each chapter is vastly different in it's views and practices. As long as they fight for the Emperor, their basically allowed to do what they want.

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SMs don't have to worry so much because they are more important and harder for the inquisition to deal with. Unless they are openly committing serious heresy it's not worth the waste of time and effort. Many inquisitors can be agressive when accusing people of heresy and SMs tend to be very proud of their chapter- losing a chapter, however small is a serious loss.

When it comes to IG using corrupted equipment I think it depends on the situations. The seige of Vraks was a long tough fight and the IoM would have been happy for any extra weapons. If the situation hadn't been so bad and they had suffiecient equipment they probably would have destroyed the corrupted weapons.



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Like the Witch trials of the 1500's to 1600's on which the whole Witchhunters fluff is based, heresy is in the eye of the beholder.

It most commonly seems to be an 'excuse' to either do whatever you wish or kill/purge/persecute whoever you wish.

See all the different branches of the inquistion as the example.

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4M2A wrote:SMs don't have to worry so much because they are more important and harder for the inquisition to deal with. Unless they are openly committing serious heresy it's not worth the waste of time and effort. Many inquisitors can be agressive when accusing people of heresy and SMs tend to be very proud of their chapter- losing a chapter, however small is a serious loss.

When it comes to IG using corrupted equipment I think it depends on the situations. The seige of Vraks was a long tough fight and the IoM would have been happy for any extra weapons. If the situation hadn't been so bad and they had suffiecient equipment they probably would have destroyed the corrupted weapons.

We're not talking about a few lasguns here.

We're talking about the Minotaur Siege Guns, the Basilisks, etc.
   
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Yes I know. They are valuable but chaos isn't something the imperium likes to have around. Given that they have had entire IG regiments killed for witnessing an incursion, losing a few warmachines doesn't seem too bad. If they are in desperate need of them then maybe they would keep them but in normal situations it seems unlikely.

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Rare machines are but Basilisks aren't that special. They have FWs mass producing them.



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This thread, for a start.

No loyal citizen needs to ask what is heresy.

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Kilkrazy wrote:This thread, for a start.

No loyal citizen needs to ask what is heresy.


This thread is for non-Impeirals to learn

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