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Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

And accusing a chapter of chaos taint because their gene seed causes them to relive the death of their primarch is not exactly being "brotherly""

Going fucknuts and killing everything in sight seems pretty Chaos-y from the outside.

As far as whether the Imperium muckity-mucks would get involved if Chapters were going at it, according to IA 9, it took a year of open warfare involving five Chapters and the local Administratum before the High Lords sent out someone to try to bring the situation under control and figure out whose fault it was. Of course, when they do act, the leaders of both sides are either killed or excommunicated.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

And accusing a chapter of chaos taint because their gene seed causes them to relive the death of their primarch is not exactly being "brotherly""

Yes it is. You must not have brothers.

When it came down to it, the other Marines protected the Flesh Tearers. That they did so while saying bad things about them isn't relevant.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

And accusing a chapter of chaos taint because their gene seed causes them to relive the death of their primarch is not exactly being "brotherly""

Yes it is. You must not have brothers.

When it came down to it, the other Marines protected the Flesh Tearers. That they did so while saying bad things about them isn't relevant.

Yes I do.

On that note, explain the Knights of Blood being declared renegades.

Well as far as giving a lending hand the BT will help when they can but they are the only true chapter to continue the Great crusade and last time I checked they dont necessarily need anyhelp because they are kicking butt and taking names, but that dosen't mean that these other chapters out there shouldint fix there problems and join the fight.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
On that note, explain the Knights of Blood being declared renegades.

They were declared renegades by the High Lords of Terra, not by other Space Marines. They even came back to Baal to help defend it with the Blood Angels.

Still getting along to me.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

And accusing a chapter of chaos taint because their gene seed causes them to relive the death of their primarch is not exactly being "brotherly""

Yes it is. You must not have brothers.

When it came down to it, the other Marines protected the Flesh Tearers. That they did so while saying bad things about them isn't relevant.

Yes I do.

On that note, explain the Knights of Blood being declared renegades.

They are crazypants and they keep killing Imperial dudes. When they keep on killing Imperials, sooner or later the High Lords have to figure that these guys are not our friends.

Because the Imperial lapdogs are cowards?

On that note, explain the Knights of Blood being declared renegades.

The High Lords of Terra had had enough of their shenanigans.

Being humans, even with all the wonders of techo-magic the Imperium has, the High Lords don't live as long as Space Marines. Every few centuries, one's going to retire or die, and a new one take his place. The philosophy and personalities of the High Lords, then, changes from time to time.

What is acceptable to the High Lords in 500.M41 may not be so in 850. M41.

Trondheim wrote:Because the Imperial lapdogs are cowards?

Psienesis wrote:

On that note, explain the Knights of Blood being declared renegades.

The High Lords of Terra had had enough of their shenanigans.

Being humans, even with all the wonders of techo-magic the Imperium has, the High Lords don't live as long as Space Marines. Every few centuries, one's going to retire or die, and a new one take his place. The philosophy and personalities of the High Lords, then, changes from time to time.

What is acceptable to the High Lords in 500.M41 may not be so in 850. M41.

I just chuckled.

They dont get along possibly due to the fact that if one ever falls into the ranks of the traitor or renegade legions, the others must kill them.

Best to not get along. Then if I have to kill you, I wont hesitate to do so and possibly disgrace my chapter by allowing you to escape or assist you.

Those who were in the combat arms sectors of the military know how it is.

Connor McKane wrote:They dont get along possibly due to the fact that if one ever falls into the ranks of the traitor or renegade legions, the others must kill them.

Best to not get along. Then if I have to kill you, I wont hesitate to do so and possibly disgrace my chapter by allowing you to escape or assist you.

Those who were in the combat arms sectors of the military know how it is.

11B before I was injured.

360th Chemical Division and 29th Signal Battalion here.

19Kilo 3rd ACR.

GW might just do it because they need more book or story plots and who doesn't love brotherly fighting.

81st Infantry Brigade. HCBT


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Connor McKane wrote:360th Chemical Division and 29th Signal Battalion here.

Nice


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SwiftLord14 wrote:19Kilo 3rd ACR.

GW might just do it because they need more book or story plots and who doesn't love brotherly fighting.

Haha apparently GW

I always figured it was because of pride.

Y'know the whole thing of an Astartes pride is more inmortant to him than his life.

It's that pride that would stop them asking each other for help. Unless, of course, it was REALLY warranted. Like that above DE story.

Or the various wars for Armageddon!

PrometheusZero wrote:I always figured it was because of pride.

Y'know the whole thing of an Astartes pride is more inmortant to him than his life.

It's that pride that would stop them asking each other for help. Unless, of course, it was REALLY warranted. Like that above DE story.

Or the various wars for Armageddon!

That too.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:I just wish the stories would progress in the time line... D: I DESIRE A CRUSADE!!!

Just as I'm unsure as to on what the assumption behind your original question is based, I fail to understand this: a cursory check of Lexicanum reveals more than ten documented crusades in M41 alone.

English Assassin wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:I just wish the stories would progress in the time line... D: I DESIRE A CRUSADE!!!

Just as I'm unsure as to on what the assumption behind your original question is based, I fail to understand this: a cursory check of Lexicanum reveals more than ten documented crusades in M41 alone.

I mean RIGHT NOW, in terms of being current.

"Right now" is a pretty nebulous concept - the last century of M41 is essentially the "present day" of the setting.

If you really want a canonical in-game event as a backdrop to gaming, the Sabbat Worlds Crusade remains "ongoing" so long as Dan Abnett's Gaunts Ghosts novels continue, likewise the 13th Black Crusade is by no means finished.

English Assassin wrote:"Right now" is a pretty nebulous concept - the last century of M41 is essentially the "present day" of the setting.

If you really want a canonical in-game event as a backdrop to gaming, the Sabbat Worlds Crusade remains "ongoing" so long as Dan Abnett's Gaunts Ghosts novels continue, likewise the 13th Black Crusade is by no means finished.

Well now, I have received my sought after information thank you...perhaps I should play grey knights.

You know the white scars had a civil war between themselves? You know that right?

Asherian Command wrote:You know the white scars had a civil war between themselves? You know that right?

They did??? D: Please explain?

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know the white scars had a civil war between themselves? You know that right?

They did??? D: Please explain?

They have brotherhoods from different places on the planet they are rivals to each other so one time they all got very very angry at each other and started a civil war within the chapter.

It's the same for the chaos warbands, sometimes Death Guard or Thousand Sons may work alongside other warbands, but only for common interest, or in some cases, common enemy.
Just don't expect Bezerkers or Noise Marines to get along nicely...

Asherian Command wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:You know the white scars had a civil war between themselves? You know that right?

They did??? D: Please explain?

They have brotherhoods from different places on the planet they are rivals to each other so one time they all got very very angry at each other and started a civil war within the chapter.

Oh the different clans they are recruited from. Well it makes sense. =)

Because way back when one of their dads pointed a gun at the other dads and said you have to follow my rules now not grandpa emperors anymore. Oh by the way I'm not going to follow the rules exactly either. Obviously I'm talking about Girlyman and the Codex, but the bad blood that was made there stayed with the younger marines that got made later. With that said some of their combat styles just don't gel well with others. Then some guys point guns at others because of some big secret that everyone knows about...Crusade of the Ophidium Gulf and a Fallen DA. That kinda stuff will tick off a chapter at others.

It's simple really, probably because they are all human. Human's have a long history of infighting. Heck even the American military branches have a bad attitudes towards each other at time.

Melchiour wrote:It's simple really, probably because they are all human. Human's have a long history of infighting. Heck even the American military branches have a bad attitudes towards each other at time.

Hooah

There is also a massive Crusade taking place in the far galactic north-east (more north and east than Segmentum Ultima) to recapture the Jericho Reach.

It's gone completely bugnuts, though, with the Tyranid (Hive Fleet Dagon), the Tau and the forces of Chaos all blunting one or another of the Crusade's salients.