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Don't blame it on my chapter!!!!

They do, within reason.

Because they all take after their primarchs, and primarchs were brothers, and brothers never get along for a long period of time.

Soladrin wrote:Because they all take after their primarchs, and primarchs were brothers, and brothers never get along for a long period of time.

For thousands of years?
Even for brothers that is a bit silly.
Think of all that could be done if they worked together! =D


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somecallmeJack wrote:They do, within reason.

Yeah, the "friendliest chapter" (if you can call it that) Looks like the white scars.

They couldn't do more if they were friendlier as the Imperium limits them too much. Some small problems could be avoided, but I haven't seen it cause many problems.

Why don't the Chapters always get along?

Well, when you get a bunch of the galaxy's most hard-ass mofo's in the same room, they'll have competition.

Nicholas wrote:They couldn't do more if they were friendlier as the Imperium limits them too much. Some small problems could be avoided, but I haven't seen it cause many problems.

I am not saying they have to have tea and a biscuit, just that "Hey our home world is infested with buggers, lend us a hand?" "Uhm...we appreciate the whole black crusade thing...but no."


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ZacktheChaosChild wrote:Why don't the Chapters always get along?

Well, when you get a bunch of the galaxy's most hard-ass mofo's in the same room, they'll have competition.

Haha fair enough, I just hope that when the fecal matter hits the fan the chapters will help each other... they will need it.

In dire straits, they do often work together. But with a thousand different Chapters, you've got to expect some rivalries or even open animosity. I mean, put me on an island with nine hundred and ninety-nine other guys, and eventually I am going to identify one or two of those fellers I don't particularly care for. Doesn't mean I won't participate with them in something that affects both of our survival, but I may not share my coconuts with them if they had a bad day hunting.

Jimsolo wrote:In dire straits, they do often work together. But with a thousand different Chapters, you've got to expect some rivalries or even open animosity. I mean, put me on an island with nine hundred and ninety-nine other guys, and eventually I am going to identify one or two of those fellers I don't particularly care for. Doesn't mean I won't participate with them in something that affects both of our survival, but I may not share my coconuts with them if they had a bad day hunting.

I just wish the stories would progress in the time line... D: I DESIRE A CRUSADE!!!
And just so you know...that wild boar had a rocket pack.

The Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls came to the aid of the Salamanders when their strike cruiser was dragged into Commoragh. They do work together, but only in cases where it's convenient.

Abstract Catalyst wrote:The Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls came to the aid of the Salamanders when their strike cruiser was dragged into Commoragh. They do work together, but only in cases where it's convenient.

=D My friend, can you explain what happened?

Salamanders got served.

Well, they would all get along, but after ten thousand years natural human douche-ness and petty dickery has led to a lot of grudges.

Like that time that Marneus Calgar showed up to a party in the same dress that Logan Grimanar was wearing. The EXACT same dress!

The two Chapters have been on the outs ever since.

That's why.

Soladrin wrote:

That's why.

Haha I have this saved, Sanguinius is my favorite. ^_^

I still don't get Ferrus Manus in that picture despite it's awesomeness.

Nicholas wrote:I still don't get Ferrus Manus in that picture despite it's awesomeness.

He is the primarch that never gets any attention, makes perfect sense. XD

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

Abstract Catalyst wrote:The Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls came to the aid of the Salamanders when their strike cruiser was dragged into Commoragh. They do work together, but only in cases where it's convenient.

=D My friend, can you explain what happened?

In order to gain control of Commoragh, Vect staged a series of attacks on freighter ships and the like in the Desaderian Gulf through a webway portal stationed there. In response, the Imperium sent Salamander strike cruiser Forgehammer to investigate, but Vect's fleet was able to cripple it with haywire bombs and drag it through the webway portal into Commoragh. There the leaders of the Kabals all tried to claim it as their prize, while Vect simply watched, and in turn had their boarding craft destroyed by the Space Marines. Whilst this conflict was occurring, the ship's librarian was able to send a psychic distress signal - which was responded to by the Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls, who came barrelling through the webway portal and laid siege to the city. Most of the Kabal leaders were killed in the fight, as Space Marines dropped-podded into the city and slaughtered Eldar left, right and center before setting up a cordon. The battle in the sky escalated as the remaining Kabal leaders attempted to destroy the ship, rather than claim it - leaving the haywire spires holding the ship in place open to a lucky missile shot, which destroyed their grasp on the ship - allowing it and the rest of the Space Marine forces to leave.

The whole event was choreographed by Vect, who took control of Commoragh after the Kabal's Archons were all slaughtered during the fighting.

Abstract Catalyst wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

Abstract Catalyst wrote:The Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls came to the aid of the Salamanders when their strike cruiser was dragged into Commoragh. They do work together, but only in cases where it's convenient.

=D My friend, can you explain what happened?

In order to gain control of Commoragh, Vect staged a series of attacks on freighter ships and the like in the Desaderian Gulf through a webway portal stationed there. In response, the Imperium sent Salamander strike cruiser Forgehammer to investigate, but Vect's fleet was able to cripple it with haywire bombs and drag it through the webway portal into Commoragh. There the leaders of the Kabals all tried to claim it as their prize, while Vect simply watched, and in turn had their boarding craft destroyed by the Space Marines. Whilst this conflict was occurring, the ship's librarian was able to send a psychic distress signal - which was responded to by the Howling Griffons and Silver Skulls, who came barrelling through the webway portal and laid siege to the city. Most of the Kabal leaders were killed in the fight, as Space Marines dropped-podded into the city and slaughtered Eldar left, right and center before setting up a cordon. The battle in the sky escalated as the remaining Kabal leaders attempted to destroy the ship, rather than claim it - leaving the haywire spires holding the ship in place open to a lucky missile shot, which destroyed their grasp on the ship - allowing it and the rest of the Space Marine forces to leave.

The whole event was choreographed by Vect, who took control of Commoragh after the Kabal's Archons were all slaughtered during the fighting.

That... was beautiful.

The list of times they work together vastly outweighs the list of times they have the choice, but do not.

Can you even name 5 instances of chapters refusing to work with each other?

DarknessEternal wrote:The list of times they work together vastly outweighs the list of times they have the choice, but do not.

Can you even name 5 instances of chapters refusing to work with each other?

Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

See, there's your problem. It's not that the chapters refuse to get along. It's that those 3 chapters you're using as an example have a nasty case of "killyourfriendsforfunandprofit-itus". Trust me, that doesn't make you popular.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:See, there's your problem. It's not that the chapters refuse to get along. It's that those 3 chapters you're using as an example have a nasty case of "killyourfriendsforfunandprofit-itus". Trust me, that doesn't make you popular.

But but but... FOR THE EMPEROR!!! =D

Well, I think if it ever got to the point where they really really really needed to, the Spess Muhreens would work together fine. It's just that they don't need to. A situation is rarely grave enough that it would warrant chapters grouping up instead of spreading out as much as possible.

hellspawn22 wrote:Well, I think if it ever got to the point where they really really really needed to, the Spess Muhreens would work together fine. It's just that they don't need to. A situation is rarely grave enough that it would warrant chapters grouping up instead of spreading out as much as possible.

I suppose that is true.

Are the chapters subject to chastisement for infighting among each other by the Imperium higher ups?

romegamer wrote:Are the chapters subject to chastisement for infighting among each other by the Imperium higher ups?

At best the Chapter Master might get a tersely worded letter.

By and large, however, the High Lords of Terra are ignorant of the infighting between Chapters. The galaxy is a terribly big place, after all, and the losing side of any SM scrabbles isn't going to go whine to the High Lords.

Psienesis wrote:

romegamer wrote:Are the chapters subject to chastisement for infighting among each other by the Imperium higher ups?

At best the Chapter Master might get a tersely worded letter.

By and large, however, the High Lords of Terra are ignorant of the infighting between Chapters. The galaxy is a terribly big place, after all, and the losing side of any SM scrabbles isn't going to go whine to the High Lords.

That and they are busy funding the minotaurs.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:
Multiple cases involving the knights of blood, flesh tearers ,and minotaurs.

When the Flesh Tearers went berserk at Armageddon, they were quietly escorted off the field by other Marines so that the non-Marines wouldn't have to see that.

That's working together, not apart.

And accusing a chapter of chaos taint because their gene seed causes them to relive the death of their primarch is not exactly being "brotherly""