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Lazypete wrote:
Anyway when in doubt think as if you were an army commander, most of GWS rules are made to be logical in their meaning.

if you were a General would you allow one team to have 2 transport, one empty and the other full? No you would give the transport to another team so not to waste.

This doesn't really apply here, in the YMDC forum. Fluff rationale doesn't hold up when talking about RAW.

Lazypete wrote:The only limitation of a dedicated transport is that when deployed it can only carry the unit it was selected with (plus any IC) .

So your Wolf guard cant be in both the Drop pod and the LR so..

All this means is that the Wolf Guard are the only unit that can be in the transport at the beginning not that they must be in it. So this really doesn't apply here. Just like every other unit that can take a DT, Wolf Guard can chose to deploy separately from their DT (or DTs in this case)

In my opinion, it is a carelessly worded rule with unforseen consequences, but RAW it does allow for them to take 2 DTs, and there is nothing anywhere that says they can't.

Lazypete wrote:I have an answer for you:

No you can't because:

As per the BRB:

The only limitation of a dedicated transport is that when deployed it can only carry the unit it was selected with (plus any IC) .

So your Wolf guard cant be in both the Drop pod and the LR so..

Chink in your armour...you don't have to deploy them embarked.They can be seperate.

TheGreatAvatar wrote:

Tri wrote:
Unless there is a phrase like "select one of the following ..." or "may take x, y or z" you may take one of every option you are give. If you are asked to trade something then you may only do so once (as you no long have anything to trade)

Actually, the exact verbiage is "Replace his Terminator armour's storm bolter with:" ..... There is nothing to exclude taking more than one option (as nosfer has pointed out: you may take the combi, you may take the claw, and you may take the hammer. None of these options prevents taking of the other and nothing states there must be a one-for-one replacement of the bolter, just that the bolter may be exchanged.

ah yes I see where you coming and i hate to agree but clearly else where in the codex it does say "Replace his bolter with one of the following" so yes you can select multiple ... chalk it up to more sloppy writing.

Now, I believe the rule for a dedicated transport are just that, for a single dedicate transport and the rules support this interpretation. And I do believe there is a one-for-one replacement of the bolter for another weapon. I also believe the argument for multiple DTs is valid, then the same type of argument can be made for several of the other options within not only the WG options but other units through out the various codices.

but you've helped prove the opposite. Aren't you happy that wolf guard can now take a pair of combi weapons, a pair of wolf claws and a pair of thunder hammer?

puma713 wrote:This doesn't really apply here, in the YMDC forum. Fluff rationale doesn't hold up when talking about RAW.

I must really disagree here.
I mean thats the way the rule are thinked thats not fluff at all.. Fluff is for the color scheme or the history of a race, im talking about how rules should be interpretted.
Most of the rules if you read the whole BRB are phrased in that way. Think of the rule that says you can remove any model in a squad when suffering casualty.
It uses this thinking to make the rule intelligent... They say that in the midst of battle people are running around and the one in the back replace their fallen comrads in the front.
I dont think thats fluff, thats a way to explain WHY they did the rule that way. So IMO you have to think this way for all rules.

Personally I think that bringing two dedicated transport for the same troop, specially a Land Raider, is a way to cheat the fact that LR use Heavy Support slots and you are trying to bring one too many of those.