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Saber wrote:

themocaw wrote:

Saber wrote:Let's hope it has a better feat than poor 'ol Thagrosh, though.

. . . not sure if serious. . .

Sure I am. I'm refering to eThagrosh's feat, the one that gives warbeasts, and warbeasts only, a 3" move and an attack. It's not a terrible feat, especially if you have Manifest Destiny up to quasi-boost attacks, but it is rather lackluster. Compare it to, say, eStryker's feat.

Thagrosh's feat is a full advance, not a 3" move. That means the Rabid Shredder gets a full eight inch move and a 4-dice drop lowest MAT 5 POW 10 bite.

Saber wrote:

themocaw wrote:

Saber wrote:Let's hope it has a better feat than poor 'ol Thagrosh, though.

. . . not sure if serious. . .

Sure I am. I'm refering to eThagrosh's feat, the one that gives warbeasts, and warbeasts only, a 3" move and an attack. It's not a terrible feat, especially if you have Manifest Destiny up to quasi-boost attacks, but it is rather lackluster. Compare it to, say, eStryker's feat.

What other people said in this thread, plus you should realise that feat plus stats plus weapons equals the value of a model. Therefore weak (or indeed very strong) feats are completely acceptable if they help the balance a Warcaster or Warlock.

OT: not a fan of the model, but I'm more of a Warmachine fan.

Ripped off name is ripped off.

Worglock wrote:Ripped off name is ripped off.

I don't think an 8th century saint is gonna complain at this point...

CT GAMER wrote:

Worglock wrote:Ripped off name is ripped off.

I don't think an 8th century saint is gonna complain at this point...

There's also a band with that name.

Worglock wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

Worglock wrote:Ripped off name is ripped off.

I don't think an 8th century saint is gonna complain at this point...

There's also a band with that name.

And a character from The classic Dragonlance novels, and a character in a video game, and a host of other things etc., etc.

Point is the name is historical in origin and wasn't really "ripped off" from anything, and has been used for decades in literatature, etc.

"Sturm und Drang" was also a "proto-Romantic movement in German literature and music from the late 1760s to the early 1780s". Thank you, Wikipedia.

Not like PP is the only company to borrow names from elsewhere (Dante, Leilith, Lion El'Johnson, hell, does anyone remember Kruellagh the Vile from the first Dark Eldar Codex?).