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Biloxi, MS USA



The monstrous creation called Sturm and Drang is proof of Dr. Arkadius’ mad genius. The key to this breakthrough was placing two strong wills in opposition. Psychic feedback crackles between their minds, driving them into a battle frenzy of escalating power. Engineered to dominate and subjugate, the pair have perfect command over the war hogs of the farrow and can unleash magic of mind-rending power and explosive force.

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Being that i am building a pig army I got to say when I saw this pic on the PP website, I was very aroused. This model is very sexy, very sexy indeed. Alright guys ill be back in two minutes.


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I admitt I saw this model on the PP webiste and I was deeply aroused. I'm collecting pigs as my third army and this model is very sexy, very sexy indeed. I'll be back in like two minutes guys.

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Man, my wallet is going to hurt in ways GW never could draw out money....

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Please re-host on Dakka!!

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This makes me think that pigs will someday get centaur-pig cavalry.

Cool model btw.
   
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He needs to be armed with a pretty wand to get the magic school trifecta (hogwarts, durmstrang and beauxbatons)

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I could start a Horde army with him, or...

Use him as a Gamma World 4ed, "Porker" boss. If you know the setting you know that he would be a perfect fit!


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Lanceradvanced wrote:He needs to be armed with a pretty wand to get the magic school trifecta (hogwarts, durmstrang and beauxbatons)


Lol.

Someone did similar a few days ago on the PP boards, too.

That said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm_und_Drang

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Preview rules sans feat and spells are up on the Insider.



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Struggle of Wills certainly doesn't feel like much of a struggle. More of a "Cherrypick Whatever you Feel Like of Wills."

I'm guessing Sturm will have many more or the only access to spells.

I would have preferred to see some kind of contested CMD roll to maintain power for multiple turns..pass it or will converts to the other head.







 
   
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Sheffield, UK

Wow! He's a bit nails. I assume that Drang isn't much in the spell slinging department.

I think we can assume that he has at least one upkeep spell.

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I would assume he's got a very upkeep-intensive spell list, necessitating either a lot of spell slinging on any turn Drang is in the ascendant or giving up on a huge amount of warbeast buffing (+2 MAT is almost as good as or better than a free boost).

If he doesn't have a lot of upkeeps then there's no point to Sturm, unless the feat effect requires Sturm in some way or there are Sturm-only non-upkeep spells. Both of which I rather doubt.
   
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sourclams wrote:I would assume he's got a very upkeep-intensive spell list, necessitating either a lot of spell slinging on any turn Drang is in the ascendant or giving up on a huge amount of warbeast buffing (+2 MAT is almost as good as or better than a free boost).


pKaya agrees.

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Shotgun wrote:Struggle of Wills certainly doesn't feel like much of a struggle. More of a "Cherrypick Whatever you Feel Like of Wills."

I'm guessing Sturm will have many more or the only access to spells.

I would have preferred to see some kind of contested CMD roll to maintain power for multiple turns..pass it or will converts to the other head.


I think as soon as you introduce a random element like that (especially to your caster) you're going to lose a lot of interest from even vaguely competitive players.

The model is pretty weak IMO.
   
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As does Kromac.

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12thRonin wrote:Epic Butcher disagrees with you.


There's a mechanic in place to stabilize it, though, that players
can shoot for. Kill 3 enemy models = uber focus next turn.

George Spiggott wrote:As does Kromac.


Kromac isn't random.

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That doesn't help the first two or three turns though when he's getting there or against something jack/beast heavy.
   
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malfred wrote:Kromac isn't random.
Hmmm, yes, misread post. My bad. Kromsc is like Strum & Drang.

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True, but that's what gameplay is for. It's theoretically bad, but eButch's 'jacks can be quite functional even without focus.

Unless he's facing some weird denial stuff, he shouldn't be too bad off.

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Sturm and Drang? Somebody at PP either likes Timothy Zahn books, or there's a third thing that they and Zahn like.

 
   
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Random focus wouldn't really function in Hordes. Only being able to pull back two Fury after putting eight out on the table last turn is likely to cost you the game.


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Wulfe Luer wrote:Sturm and Drang? Somebody at PP either likes Timothy Zahn books, or there's a third thing that they and Zahn like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm_und_Drang

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I mean, I like Zahn and all but I think Goethe gets the nod in that contest. Know your German metaphysics, kids! Most of the twentieth century's problems have their orgin in nineteenth century Germans using big words to do confusing things.

While it's hard to say how good S&D is without seeing the spells and feat, at first blush it looks a lot like eThagrosh - big base, lots of killing power, but pretty squishy. Let's hope it has a better feat than poor 'ol Thagrosh, though.

I'm not too worried about anything on that card, though Goad could be pretty mean. Otherwise its a big, easy to kill warlock, which makes comitting it to melee tantamount to suicide.

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Saber wrote:Let's hope it has a better feat than poor 'ol Thagrosh, though.


. . . not sure if serious. . .
   
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Can't be.
   
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Saber wrote:I mean, I like Zahn and all but I think Goethe gets the nod in that contest. Know your German metaphysics, kids! Most of the twentieth century's problems have their orgin in nineteenth century Germans using big words to do confusing things.


Well, at least he wasn't trying to claim it as a Harry Potter reference, which I've seen some people do

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Saber wrote:Let's hope it has a better feat than poor 'ol Thagrosh, though.


. . . not sure if serious. . .


Sure I am. I'm refering to eThagrosh's feat, the one that gives warbeasts, and warbeasts only, a 3" move and an attack. It's not a terrible feat, especially if you have Manifest Destiny up to quasi-boost attacks, but it is rather lackluster. Compare it to, say, eStryker's feat.

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You mean Dragon Storm, where all warbeasts in Thag's control area can make a full advance and attack once?

The feat that gives Shredders a 19" non-linear threat radius with 4 dice drop lowest attack and damage rolls?

You can arc Scourge through a Spell Martyr for ultra-long range assassinations against anybody with ARM18 or less.
   
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He's hard to impress I guess.
   
 
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