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KamikazeCanuck wrote:Entire battle barge? I think it was one squad.

Numbers weren't given. Not a whole Grand Company, but they controlled a Strike Cruiser so it was likely about 20 - 50.

A Red Scorpion, I believe, has never fallen to chaos due, they say, to the purity of their gene seed. They are by all accounts (including those in the Administratum) carriers of some of the purist genetic material where the Astartes are concerned. They are fanatically strict codex adherents. Even refusing to fight alongside Chapters who don't follow codex recommended camouflage patterns... lol.

They are also highly secretive. So secretive, in fact, that they keep their homeworld completely isolated and take extreme measures to prevent its discovery in order to preserve marine candidate stock.

This is an uncommon example, as I think most Chapters have lost marines to chaos at one time or another (not including the Grey Knights of course!).

1hadhq wrote:

FuryTheBerserker wrote:Brother Coa falling to chaos...

Don't give him ideas

Okey

LoneLictor wrote:The Dark Angels and Luna Wolves, both considered some of the purest Legions, suffered quite a lot of treachery.

Stability of geneseed is not an indication to the likelihood of a marine falling to chaos, it an indication of how regular a mutation in the geneseeed will be seen.

Taken to the extreme there are multiple chapters in the 21st founding with massive geneseed mutations that are fiercely loyal to the IoM.

FuryTheBerserker wrote:Brother Coa falling to chaos...

Actually its a typo, must read Brother Caos, Founder of the heretic chapter "Troll Bearers"

Didn't expect that anyone playing 40k has never heard of Chaos Space Marines and the Horus Heresy, but it explains his other threads.

FuryTheBerserker wrote:Brother Coa falling to chaos...

I would rather became Tau fanboi to the core


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Kroothawk wrote:
Didn't expect that anyone playing 40k has never heard of Chaos Space Marines and the Horus Heresy, but it explains his other threads.

And if you read actual question rather than imagine things you would know you get it wrong all the time when it comes to me...

There are definitely plenty of examples of small isolated groups of marines turning to Chaos, or of entire companies or chapters being led into Chaos by a corrupt leader, or tricked into the service of Chaos by outside influences. I'm sure every chapter experiences at least some members defecting on a long enough timeline. Except the Mary Sue Grey Knights of course.

Right, we know about the main chapters who have fallen to heresy. But, even though it has never been written, lets say probably at least a few members of chapters like White Scars have fallen as I doubt they have such a huge devotion to the emperor like say, Ultramarines. They are the first chapter, therefore, however annoying and common they are, it is doubtful many have fallen to chaos.

I think it would be safe to say most, if not all non-GK chapters have lost at least a member or two to Chaos. Whether they lived long enough to get away with it and wreck havoc on the Imperium is another matter altogether.

Alright, lets see if I can clarify what dear Brother Coa is trying to say. I believe he is asking why there are so few stories of recent turncoats leaving their chapters and joining Chaos. As for that question I believe he asked, I don't know why there aren't that many stories of treacherous marines running off and joining the Black Legion.

Shayden wrote:Alright, lets see if I can clarify what dear Brother Coa is trying to say. I believe he is asking why there are so few stories of recent turncoats leaving their chapters and joining Chaos. As for that question I believe he asked, I don't know why there aren't that many stories of treacherous marines running off and joining the Black Legion.

That's because most of them run to the Red Corsairs. Or used to. The 2nd edition Red Corsairs were made up of the remnants of the Astral Claws as well as many other Marines that turned. They would paint a red 'X' over their chapter insignia and fight for Huron.

-Loki- wrote:

Shayden wrote:Alright, lets see if I can clarify what dear Brother Coa is trying to say. I believe he is asking why there are so few stories of recent turncoats leaving their chapters and joining Chaos. As for that question I believe he asked, I don't know why there aren't that many stories of treacherous marines running off and joining the Black Legion.

That's because most of them run to the Red Corsairs. Or used to. The 2nd edition Red Corsairs were made up of the remnants of the Astral Claws as well as many other Marines that turned. They would paint a red 'X' over their chapter insignia and fight for Huron.

Black Legion, Red Corsairs; Its all good!

Brother Coa....of all the questions you ask, why do you ask a question where it is given plainly in the fluff? What kind of question is that? If there WAS a story of other space marines falling to chaos, don't you think you'd find material with just the slightest of efforts? Again...after reading the OP's post I conclude that this thread can't be taken seriously.

SwiftLord14 wrote:Space Wolf haters patrol Dakka looking for anyway to hate.

I feel you. I try not to hate on Space Wolves too hard, being a Thousand Sons devotee. I figure if you're going to have a nemesis the best the Imperium has to offer is a hell of a start.

As far as the OP is concerned, YES, countless individual marines from most assuredly all of the space marine chapters (sans GK, if you buy that) have fallen to chaos. What probably happens to most of them is a quick bolter shot to the head and a mop and bucket servitor comes along and cleans the brain grease out of the grim-dark tile floors and metal gratings of the 41st millennium.

Here's an example... via wacky mad lib...
"I'm a tactical space marine from the (legion name). The other day whilst cruising along in our (dedicated transport), I got a (adverb) sensation in my cyber-(body part). Once the assault started after we exited the (dedicated transport), the smell of the (bodily fluid) on the battlefield gave me that (adjective) feeling again. I told the sergeant and he said it was just the rush of battle, but a voice in my (body part) told me he was a (noun). I decided to take it up with the Chaplain. He said it was quite obviously the influence of (a chaos god) and then (verb)-ed me in the (body part) with a (piece of wargear) until I died.

Now fill in the blanks and post your findings!

CHAOS SPACE MARINES CODEX!!!!

Brother Coa wrote:Not that folks...

For example we know that half of Dark Angels fall... ( in this moment Deathwing Terminator teleported beside me and point his Storm Bolter on my head so I must stop typing this heresy.. ).

From the fluff I know that Blood Ravens have fallen ( some of them ), few Black Templars, Blood Angels, entire Astral Claws...

But I never heard about White Scar or Salamander or Iron Hand marine falling to Chaos... Could it be that none marine from their chapters ever fall or there is yet story to be wrote about this?

Due to the fact that almost all of the Salama ders were wiped out in the horus herresy, they probably hate chaos and wouldnt even think to succumb to chaos.
Also, unless im mistaken, the same goes for the space wolves (none have succumbed to chaos)?

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Not that folks...

For example we know that half of Dark Angels fall... ( in this moment Deathwing Terminator teleported beside me and point his Storm Bolter on my head so I must stop typing this heresy.. ).

From the fluff I know that Blood Ravens have fallen ( some of them ), few Black Templars, Blood Angels, entire Astral Claws...

But I never heard about White Scar or Salamander or Iron Hand marine falling to Chaos... Could it be that none marine from their chapters ever fall or there is yet story to be wrote about this?

Due to the fact that almost all of the Salama ders were wiped out in the horus herresy, they probably hate chaos and wouldnt even think to succumb to chaos.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dragon_Warriors

Also, unless im mistaken, the same goes for the space wolves (none have succumbed to chaos)?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Wolf_of_Fenris

Coolyo294 wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:Not that folks...

For example we know that half of Dark Angels fall... ( in this moment Deathwing Terminator teleported beside me and point his Storm Bolter on my head so I must stop typing this heresy.. ).

From the fluff I know that Blood Ravens have fallen ( some of them ), few Black Templars, Blood Angels, entire Astral Claws...

But I never heard about White Scar or Salamander or Iron Hand marine falling to Chaos... Could it be that none marine from their chapters ever fall or there is yet story to be wrote about this?

Due to the fact that almost all of the Salama ders were wiped out in the horus herresy, they probably hate chaos and wouldnt even think to succumb to chaos.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dragon_Warriors

Also, unless im mistaken, the same goes for the space wolves (none have succumbed to chaos)?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Wolf_of_Fenris

Alright, ill change that to very few of those chapter have succumbed to chaos.

Jollydevil wrote:Also, unless im mistaken, the same goes for the space wolves (none have succumbed to chaos)?

The only second founding of the Space Wolves was the Wolf Brothers. All succumbed to chaos. Read it yesterday in Battle of the Fang.

Surfboard66 wrote:CHAOS SPACE MARINES CODEX!!!!

You win so hard.

Sharkvictim wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:Also, unless im mistaken, the same goes for the space wolves (none have succumbed to chaos)?

The only second founding of the Space Wolves was the Wolf Brothers. All succumbed to chaos. Read it yesterday in Battle of the Fang.

Surfboard66 wrote:CHAOS SPACE MARINES CODEX!!!!

You win so hard.

I thought the wolf brothers got horribly mutated?