StarHunter25 wrote:Blacksails wrote:I wouldn't even fathom trying to set out point costs for army wide USRs, short of doing a mind-boggling amount of testing and fiddling. Not to mention an extensive amount of simple mathhammer, calculating averages and what-not.
Also, Land Raider should NEVER be able to acquire the fast rule. EVER. That's a really scary thought...
The idea is there though, but the implementation would need to be simple and elegant, yet provide the degree of customization we all want. It'd take a lot of work, that's for sure.
What, do you not like the idea of
LRC zooming 18" turn one, then vomiting out a squad of
TH/
SS termies w/ lysander? all with furious charge/
FNP?? whats not to like??? ... ... i see your point
Yeah, scary indeed. Being able to 'purchase'
USRs or specific upgrades isn't the right approach though. Picture this.
Lets say buying army wide Furious Charge was X points.
Now let's say Fleet is worth Y points.
Is buying Furious charge AND Fleet for your whole army actually worth X+Y? No, its worth a whole lot more, as it turns a good assaulty unit (just furious charge) into a deadly assault unit (with the addition of fleet) as the unit can cover ground faster. Synergy between special rules would be a ridiculous endeavor to balance, and setting a fixed cost would encourage people to take as many as possible, especially in 2500pts games where 20-30 pts isn't a whole lot.
The way to do it is create templates or traits that confer a certain specialty or option to abuse creating a super army. But even that would take a solid year of constant playtesting. Then you'd have to do something similar for the non-marine codices, as the different Eldar craftworlds all fight in a unique manner with even greater differences than marines. Orks are also very similar in this vein. Imperial Guard wouldn't be exempt either (though the current codex does a good enough job). All in all, it would mean a pretty hefty overhaul, which is unlikely.
Or
GW can just keep making
MEQ armies better and better.
Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress 
