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2011/09/18 17:51:04
Subject: Re:Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
To quote directly from the codex astartes article: "The most famous heroic story of ferrus was his titanic battle against Asirnoth, the Great Silver Wyrm. This is recounted in the Canticle of the Travels, an epic poem of unknown origin that is still taught to the clan children at their parents knee. He had stalked the great beast for days through the legendary Land of Shadows. (some time on after discribing the land of shadows). The Canticle describes the monsterous creature as having skin made of living metal that was impervious to harm. Try as he might, Ferrus could not piece the metal hide of the beast, his fists pummelling harmlessly against it. Fighting the creature for days on end, across continents and seas, Ferrus remained undaunted, confident of his own abilies. He eventually slew the great veast by holding the writhing creature submerged in a lava flow, enduring horrific pain, but bearing it stoically. When he finally removed his arms from the lava, the Wyrm was no more. His hand however were encased in the same living metal the creature's skin was made of, a metal that was as flexable as flesh, as strong as the hardest ceramite."
It then goes on about how the emperor found him.
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5000 points of Skaven
2000 points of Daemons of Chaos
Adding to the Daemons and Iron Hands ATM!
2011/09/18 17:58:32
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Ascalam wrote:There are no universal subclasses of dragon in the original myths.
There is no consensus in world myth as to what a dragon is. The illustrations are vastly different, with 2 limbs, 4 limbs, wings, no wings, fire, no fire...
you get the picture.
'Nice picture.
Still used to the difference made in myths here in mid-europe, where a Dragon is usually the 4 limbed, winged and most dangerous kind.
Maybe the thought of these ( wurm , lindwurm , drache ) sent me a bit off.
The silver-wyrm Ferrus chased was found in ancient ruins of the first settlers.
If it was necron then what is left untouched there?
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2011/09/18 18:13:35
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
The Dragon's original Stasis Crypt would be awesome..
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
2011/09/18 18:19:06
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Just in case someone says it couldn't have been a tomb stalker becasue it was described as a Dragon/Wyrm, I would like to say that to its victims, who werte either running for their lives or dying, it made no difference what it was. It could have been King Kong for they cared. Afterwards, they would not be able to remember what it was clearly because of the trauima. To them, it probably was like a dragon from Terran myth, but it in fact could have been a donkey robot.
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2011/09/18 19:00:42
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Wasn't Ferrus' origin story with the metal wyrm extant before the current necron codex (and by extension virtually any necron fluff) existed?
Im just throwing it out there, but does the index astartes (or the fluff that the index astartes draw from) predate the current necron fluff (i.e. living metal)
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Deadshot wrote:Secondly, BT. I know that they won't have psykers in their ranks, but if they have no Libbies to detect them, how do they know they have them. Also, what do they do when they meet a human psyker?
The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
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2011/09/19 18:15:02
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
BluntmanDC wrote:The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
Source for that? Their codex (p. 8) states "They... profess absolutely no tolerance for hetetics, mutants, warlocks, aliens... for this reason, the Black Templars have no librarians".
As I recall in Nemesis the assassins' ship is steered through the warp by some kind of machine; it would not be impossible for the Black Templars to use some similar contrivance.
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2011/09/19 18:41:01
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Deadshot wrote:Secondly, BT. I know that they won't have psykers in their ranks, but if they have no Libbies to detect them, how do they know they have them. Also, what do they do when they meet a human psyker?
The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
My Templar brethren and I disagree. This needs a
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In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
2011/09/19 18:45:35
Subject: Re:Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
2011/09/20 14:30:31
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Deadshot wrote:Secondly, BT. I know that they won't have psykers in their ranks, but if they have no Libbies to detect them, how do they know they have them. Also, what do they do when they meet a human psyker?
The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
My Templar brethren and I disagree. This needs a [epic image]
Agreed! TANKRED SMASH!
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2011/09/20 14:41:55
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Deadshot wrote:Secondly, BT. I know that they won't have psykers in their ranks, but if they have no Libbies to detect them, how do they know they have them. Also, what do they do when they meet a human psyker?
The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
BT fluff basically states that they don't have librarians at all right?
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2011/09/20 15:30:58
Subject: Ferrus Manus' hands, Black Templars and Psykers and other things.
Deadshot wrote:Secondly, BT. I know that they won't have psykers in their ranks, but if they have no Libbies to detect them, how do they know they have them. Also, what do they do when they meet a human psyker?
The Black Templars still have librarians, they are just not used in battle due to the lack of trust. The librarians fufill every other job role bar combat.
BT fluff basically states that they don't have librarians at all right?
Aye. See above for the quote from page 8. We have Chaplains that drink the tears of the heathen for breakfast instead.
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