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IMO drop the bike and stick him with the boys or drop the boss all together and toss in a grot squad and add 6 buggies
I would do something like this

Hq
-KFF

elte
-Nob
1st pk w/ waagh banner and cybork
2nd pk w/ bp and cybork
3rd choppa w/ cybork
4th big choppa w/ cybork
5th painboy w/ cybork
-Battlwagon rolla,kannon,red

Troop
-10 grot
-19 Boyz w/ nob bp and pk

Heavy
-Battlwagon rolla,kannon,red

Fast
-2 buggy rokkit
-2 buggy rokkit
-2 buggy rokkit

total 964

With the extra points you could add in an extra buggy,9 grotz,Wagon upgrades,Mek upgrades or an extra nob.

I'm with jidmah, plates are an essential. Your wagon is an assault ramp, they need to go fast. They can't afford to get caught up with a stunned result and spend a whole turn sitting there. And what do your other wagons do when that happens? Keep going? Now the wagon is out of kff range and is dead for sure. Stay behind? Now one lousy stunned result has gimped your entire attack for a whole turn. Your also more vunerable to getting smashed up in cc, because some speedy unit with a fist is getting auto-hits on your rear armour. Really, plating is something i just incorperate into the cost of the wagon. It just seems like a no-brainer to me.

agreed on plates, I go at a minimum BW rolla, plates, 2 big shootas (or single kannon is low points liek this one to fire defensive seapon) I liek to add rpj and a plank but if i'm stretched for points they go

How often do plates help you in a game with an open toped vehicle? Like Azgrim said they either blow up or the KFF saves it. I've had my BW's stunned like two games out of the last 20+ games. I will agree to disagree on this one.

Grimgob wrote:How often do plates help you in a game with an open toped vehicle? Like Azgrim said they either blow up or the KFF saves it. I've had my BW's stunned like two games out of the last 20+ games. I will agree to disagree on this one.

mine has saved me quite a few times to glances which become stun

but agreeign to disagree works...

btw mostly this comment is to say your city of death stuff is pretty badass!

Mine get stunned rather often. I dropped them one game, and regretted it. Got stunned on two wagons out of 3, and one was kff. So i had to stop the whole attack, and lost all of my momentum. Terrible game.. pulled a draw with it, but easily could have won by a landslide if i had plates.

my regular opponents all roll very crappy, you can nearly guarantee them to roll 70% 1s and 2s, so plates are essential. EVERY game i get to say "haha only counts as shaken cause of plates" at least 3 times

azgrim wrote:IMO drop the bike and stick him with the boys or drop the boss all together and toss in a grot squad and add 6 buggies
I would do something like this

Hq
-KFF

elte
-Nob
1st pk w/ waagh banner and cybork
2nd pk w/ bp and cybork
3rd choppa w/ cybork
4th big choppa w/ cybork
5th painboy w/ cybork
-Battlwagon rolla,kannon,red

Troop
-10 grot
-19 Boyz w/ nob bp and pk

Heavy
-Battlwagon rolla,kannon,red

Fast
-2 buggy rokkit
-2 buggy rokkit
-2 buggy rokkit

total 964

With the extra points you could add in an extra buggy,9 grotz,Wagon upgrades,Mek upgrades or an extra nob.

I actually think this list might work well, you have tools to handle about anything your opponent tosses at you, and still got a decent amount of models to put on the table. I'd use the leftover points to get the Mek a burna and armor or the like, to make him a mini-warboss to go with your boyz,

I don't understand...what are the grots for?

Far Seer wrote:I don't understand...what are the grots for?

cover saves for boys, tying up wraithlords and the like, being in the way of enemies....

More like objective camping. A ten man unit of grots is great in a battlewagon brigade list, becaus ein objectives, you deffinantly don't want to leave an entire battlewagon behind to hold an objective. Besides, grots are great objective holders. 3+ save when they gtg, and no-one ever wants to "waste" shots on grots, so they are generally ignored.

loota boy wrote:More like objective camping. A ten man unit of grots is great in a battlewagon brigade list, becaus ein objectives, you deffinantly don't want to leave an entire battlewagon behind to hold an objective. Besides, grots are great objective holders. 3+ save when they gtg, and no-one ever wants to "waste" shots on grots, so they are generally ignored.

yes you're right

I didnt think of that, as I use my grots for said tasks, but i don't play bw rush

Yeah, you simply reserve them, and have them run to a the closest objective when they come on. Due to them being close to no threat at all and coming on late in the game, the will usually not attract too much fire before it's too late.

Are these games being played on a 4 by 4 table?

There are many viable battlewagon lists at 1k as long as the game is being played on a 4 by 4, but playing on a 4 by 6 table will take the viability out of any battlewagon list.

Uh, care to explain why?