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yes but ive been told you shouldnt really mix jump infrantry and transports?


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yes but ive been told you shouldnt really mix jump infrantry and transports?

willybob23 wrote:yes but ive been told you shouldnt really mix jump infrantry and transports?


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Whilst that is true to an extent you always need to put Death Company in a transport weather they have jump packs or not so stick em in a Stormraven or something. This is done to cancel out their Black Rage so they do not have to move toward the closest enemy unit on the board. Which is realy bad if your opponent leads a distraction unit at them which renders them useless.

yes but im not going to use the death company in my list because they are too unpredictable! whats ur ba list?


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willybob23 wrote:yes but im not going to use the death company in my list because they are too unpredictable! whats ur ba list?


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Depends on what size game. And also depends on if I wanna play DoA or Hybrid.

So is dante and 5 sanguinary guard a good deep striking unit?

Yes they are an extremly effective deepstriking unit. But if you want to make full use of Dante's abilitys to make the sanguinary guard troop choices then take multiple units. As Dante is no longer as effective as he once was so you need to make full use of him. Also he is overpriced for what he is. But he can still work well if used to his full potential.

yes mostly the only reason i got him is because of how awesome and i want to try out some nmm techinques

You should have got The Sanguinour he is better in game and if you ask me is a better model.

yes but he's not an independent character that's what put me off

willybob23 wrote:yes but he's not an independent character that's what put me off

Neither is Mephiston but people sware by him including the Grandaddy of the Blood Angels Jawwaballs. They can survive alot on their own. So lets look at some stats for The Sanguinor for 275pts you get an eternal warrior so he is immune to instant death, a 2+ armour save, a 3+ invunerable save, WS 8 and has Avenging angel, The Sanguinor's Blessing and Aura of Fevour. If you stick him next to the unit with The Sanguinors Blessing and send them after the unfortunate IC that the opponent controls and it is dead no matter what your opponent does. Or stick him behind a vehicle or another unit to block for him so even if something has ap2 he will still get a 4+ save if for some reason you forget about is epic 3+ inv. The only thing to beat that ins Ghazghkulls WAAAGH where he has a 2+ inv for a turn and a half. and if he is behind a landraider well they have to see him to shoot him. So just cause they arent IC doesn't mean they don't kick ass. Also adding super shiny Dante or any IC to a super strong elite unit in bright shiny armour ( so they will already have attracted your opponents atention) would be like adding a disco ball and a huge neon sign saying SHOOT ME IM THE BEST UNIT IN THE ARMY. So it can actually decrease the survivability. But you can use this unit as a distraction unit allowing the rest of your army to its job (munch stuff up in CC,) But that would be a very expensive distraction unit and I really need to stop finding arguments against my own advice. But like I said if you want to use Dante you MUST and I repeat MUST take full advantage of him.


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Oh I almost forgot that he also has a jump pack/wings as well as a master crafted power weapon. And he has furious charge.

whats the difference between a master crafter power weapon and just a normal power weapon?

cheers


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tycho aswell is he any good?say in a rhino with a squad of veterans?

I can't tell you if Thycho is any good as i have no experience with him and always thought that any other HQ/IC can do his job better except, a rugular captain but i would start another thread to find out about him. And the only difference between a master crafted power weapon and a regular one is that the master crafted one can be used to re-roll a single to hit roll per turn.


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So you roll 3 dice needing to hit on 4's. You roll 3,5,2 meaning only one attack hits. But if you have a master crafted weapon you are allowed to re-roll either the 2 or the 3 but not both this increases your chances of hitting. But if you do not use the effect then it can be used in the opponents assault phase providing it is still the same game turn.

so do they instant kill like power fists?

Sorry btw it is re-roll to hit per player turn not game turn. As far as I know they do not insta kill just the re-roll and a powerfist does not always insta kill as it only insta kills if the targets str when using it is double the targets toughness. So a str4 marine uses power fist he strikes at str 8 which is not going to insta death anything, that has toughness 5.

dante is wip, im really pleased with how he's looking in nmm its my first try and it actually looks ok! i'll put a picture up in a couple of days! i also made an epic lava base for him !

Looking forward to seeing it.