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**wuestenfux**

Drix hits the nail pretty well. BA are very versatile when compared with other MEQ armies. But they might get expensive. This can be counteract a bit by minimizing upgrades.

In particular, BA is the only chapter that can play an AV 13 tank wall. I'm not really a fan of Razorbacks since they get downed to often and then you eventually lose a KP game.

**Jedend1**

Drix wrote:Blood angels are a fun army because of their highly versatile builds.

They can muster up deathstar armies with relatively scary lists including dc, deep striking land raiders, storm raven assault vehicles, etc.

They do fine in MSU lists with melta-equipped 5-man assault squads. The discount on the razorback is plain sex. The Space Wolves certainly do it better as far as razorspam, but the cargo within is a little scarier than grey hunters, IMO.

AV13 spam. Whether that's predator or dreadnaught, Blood Angels can do it well.

Scary heroes. I'm seeing a lot of Dante-sang-honor guard death star drop lists. Mephiston can be quite versatile, even though everyone now seems to have experienced him and has an answer for him. Hell, I fielded Gabriel Seth the other day with my fluffy flesh tearer's army and he (and his sanguinary guard pals) whiped out Kharn and his bezerker friends in cc. Pretty brutal stuff.

DoA infantry heavy jump lists. So you're packing plenty of las and melta for the 5 razorbacks and 3 predators you expect to see? Well, now you have thirty melta-armed, power-fist packing marines jumping right into your face. Good luck.

Fast vindicators. Variable results, but when they work they work.

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The big weaknesses that the blood angels have is that they are expensive. Let's be honest, razorbacks are not hard to destroy, even with the 5+ libby shield. Stormchickens die easily enough, and risking the cargo for a flat-out cover save is rarely worth it.

Does your opponent make a mistake and set his Mephiston just out of cover? Blast away at him and knock out 250 points. Did he field expensive death company in a rhino? Pop it, and bait them around with some suitably powerful armor.

In my opinion, focus on the point sinks. The troops are tough for space marines, but as soon as the boxes are popped, you should have the same fighting chance against them as you would vs any other army.

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Thanks alot for you help drix. There is alot to take in there but I will read it a few more times because I have a bad memory

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A few poeple have said a jump pack list is always good especially if you have transport. TBH I might just take idea from everyones opinion on what list.
As far as weaknesses that you guys have poat are great but i'm sure there are more for me to experience in my futurue battles when I start the Blood Angels. But First I need to make a list. If you have any idea oin what to choose then lok on my othere posts. i have made one asking advise on what to have in my list. you have slightly touched on this

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**wuestenfux**

Well, you could look into the Battle Reports here at Dakka. I'm certain you'll find several competitive BA builds.

**Happygrunt**

Its just a little one, but no Combat Tactics. I miss having moral control...

**Jackster**

Happygrunt wrote:Its just a little one, but no Combat Tactics. I miss having moral control...

Yea, trading that for Red Thirst is kinda meh...
I have yet to get a unit that actually get it lol

**Happygrunt**

Jackster wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:Its just a little one, but no Combat Tactics. I miss having moral control...

Yea, trading that for Red Thirst is kinda meh...
I have yet to get a unit that actually get it lol

My devs have pulled it more often then anything else. Its funny, because then I assault things that get too close, and it scares the hell out of people.

**Jedend1**

Drix wrote:Blood angels are a fun army because of their highly versatile builds.

They can muster up deathstar armies with relatively scary lists including dc, deep striking land raiders, storm raven assault vehicles, etc.

They do fine in MSU lists with melta-equipped 5-man assault squads. The discount on the razorback is plain sex. The Space Wolves certainly do it better as far as razorspam, but the cargo within is a little scarier than grey hunters, IMO.

AV13 spam. Whether that's predator or dreadnaught, Blood Angels can do it well.

Scary heroes. I'm seeing a lot of Dante-sang-honor guard death star drop lists. Mephiston can be quite versatile, even though everyone now seems to have experienced him and has an answer for him. Hell, I fielded Gabriel Seth the other day with my fluffy flesh tearer's army and he (and his sanguinary guard pals) whiped out Kharn and his bezerker friends in cc. Pretty brutal stuff.

DoA infantry heavy jump lists. So you're packing plenty of las and melta for the 5 razorbacks and 3 predators you expect to see? Well, now you have thirty melta-armed, power-fist packing marines jumping right into your face. Good luck.

Fast vindicators. Variable results, but when they work they work.

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The big weaknesses that the blood angels have is that they are expensive. Let's be honest, razorbacks are not hard to destroy, even with the 5+ libby shield. Stormchickens die easily enough, and risking the cargo for a flat-out cover save is rarely worth it.

Does your opponent make a mistake and set his Mephiston just out of cover? Blast away at him and knock out 250 points. Did he field expensive death company in a rhino? Pop it, and bait them around with some suitably powerful armor.

In my opinion, focus on the point sinks. The troops are tough for space marines, but as soon as the boxes are popped, you should have the same fighting chance against them as you would vs any other army.[/quotYes, they are expensive. For example, a dreadnaught costs £28. Thats more than a tank!
I have noticed that Blood Angels are competative when it comes to a mech list. Get a few transport (Rhino) put your assault squad in there and get them down straigght to the enemy. Plus a predator behind for all back up.
Blood Angels should be an exiting but expensive army for me .

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wuestenfux wrote:Well, you could look into the Battle Reports here at Dakka. I'm certain you'll find several competitive BA builds.
Yeah I will check them out. Thanks

Jedend1.

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Thought on the dreadnaught?