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Jollydevil wrote:

Belexar wrote:

DeffDred wrote:

Jus get really baked and play a game of 40k. You'll see how epic it is.

Is there any other way to play?

You can always play drunk. Hey, here's a fun game! Every time a bullet is fired drink. Oh, and you should totally play Green Tide vs Gaunts.

fix'd.
Youll wake up in your mothers kitchen wearing a dress in no time!

Then the other guy would have to go full Dakkagaunts

It isn't you. It's just GW has gotten stale and for you now it's boring. There is nothing exciting, and as you said, the way GW does things now, makes you have no intrest in GW anymore.

All that means is it's time for a break. DO NOT SELL OR GET RID OF YOUR ARMY. After 2 years then maybe you can consider getting rid of it, but for now, shelve your minis, and just take a break from GW.

The itch will come back. If not, then GW has run it's course with you. Time to move onto another hobby or company now.

This is why I prefer to play the RPGs. It never gets stale, you can always write another campaign in a totally different setting within the 40K universe.

My current DH campaign is pretty bog-standard Inquisition stuff... they have a ship, they have their guns, they do investigations, fight aliens and cultists, and then fly on to the next planet.

My next game? They'll be bound to the irradiated wastes of a former Hive world that destroyed itself with nuclear fire following a civil insurrection some centuries past when the Arch-Enemy infiltrated one of the Hives. To make matters worse, this is one of those worlds the Imperium has simply forgotten existed, and so no tithe ships have been seen in millennia...

While the various Adepta of the Imperium remain on the planet, mostly as relics or shadows of their true functions, the survivors of the Cleansing Fires have banded together in small communities to survive in the wastes.

Think of it as Warhammer 40K meets Fallout: New Vegas.

Yeah, just take a break. Do some outside things. Read a book, learn to cook, play vid games, go out with your friends and do other things than move painted figures around all the time.

Jollydevil wrote:

Belexar wrote:

DeffDred wrote:

Jus get really baked and play a game of 40k. You'll see how epic it is.

Is there any other way to play?

You can always play drunk. Hey, here's a fun game! Every time a bullet is fired drink. Oh, and you should totally play Green Tide vs Gaunts.

fix'd.
Youll wake up in your mothers kitchen wearing a dress in no time!

DeffDred wrote:Is there any other way to play?

Jollydevil wrote:Youll wake up in your mothers kitchen wearing a dress in no time!

Can't say I ever experienced that one.. What you been drinkin?

Maybe recreate historic 40k battles. I know it sounds lame but what about recreating the ultramarines taking on an entire hive fleet and the whole of one company was wiped out. It might take a day to do a movement phase, but still.

Try out Malifaux =3

Whats that?

Malifaux is a skirmish game by Wyrd, uses a deck of cards instead of dice, it's actually surprisingly enaging. Rather than One player move/attacking with all his models, you alternate activating one model each.

The basic mechanic is you take your offensive stat, and flip a card; add its value to your stat; then they do the same. Afterwhich you can "cheat" a card from your hand to replace the one you flipped, lots of stuff like that

Sounds interesting but I don't think anyone at my FLGS plays it. Right now the main game system is Warmachine which I've been enjoying quite a bit. We actually just finished our Journeyman league this last week. So right now I've been working on my Khador army and planning on starting a Hordes army here pretty soon.

Yeah Warmachine is lots of fun; Malifaux is surprisingly little heard of, I imagine because the miniatures are specific characters, rather than grunts/random leaders you can flufforize.

If you find someone who can demo it in your area, do give it a look; the various victory point options alone are enough for me to recommend it; you each get your own main mission (or a shared one if you fancy); in my last game I had to have equal or more models than my oponent in 2 quarters of the table for 2 VPs, or 3 quarters for 4 VPs. Her mission was to get a supply wagon to the centre of the table: 2 VPs if it's standing, 4VPs if unscratched (it has damage reduction).

Alongside that, we each have schemes; which you can announce or hide. For example mine was Bodyguard: 1VP if my leader survives, or 2VP if I let my opponent KNOW that I have bodyguard (I announced) and Thwart, one I keep secret and if she didn't complete any of her schemes, I'd get +2VP, or +1VP if she didn't announce any schemes.

Her schemes were Steal the Relic: her leader must get into base contact with my leader, and win a will power duel (her leader had 7 wp with an aura that reduces wp by 2, my leader had 4 wp. Flipping cards and knowing that even if I cheat a 13, she only has to cheat 8 or higher, is not fun, especially as her leader has models that cast a spell at wp 8+flip vs wp (mine is 4 as I said) and makes you move your move value towards them (I play guys with very high base speed). The other scheme was holdout: keep my guys out her deployment zone; she wanted to do that anyway given the quarters mission I had.

Not very well explained, but it's just nice to know that if you play particularly well, to the mission, you can win with 0 models left

Sounds pretty cool. I may have to give a little look see. I think my FLGS may actually carry some of the stuff. Just never saw anyone play it all.

Commisar Wolfie wrote:So I'm finding more and more that I just have no interest anymore in actually playing 40K or even to buy any new models or codex or anything else for the tableop game. I still love the fluff of it but everything else just holds no interest anymore. I suppose part of it is the way GW is going recently and how they just want to push the newest army and really seem to promote band wagon jumping. Anybody else feeling this way or is it just me?

Just you. That's the approach, push the new hotness. Been that way since I remember way back in 2nd edition. Comes with the territory.

You will learn to -hate- the black joker ;D

One of the mechanics is plus and minis flips; if I'm shooting someone in cover I'd get a minus flip, so, I use my combat value, flip my card to add to it, then flip an additional card because of the minus flip. I take the worse of the two.

Maybe I focus an attack: I get a plus flip; I take my combat value, flip two cards, pick the highest and add that.

If you flip a red joker, you take it. Even if I was shooting someone who gave me 3 minus or positive flips, if any one of them is the red Joker, I pick that. If it's for damage, you take the red joker, then flip another card and add that. The red joker counts as a 14 for values, or "severe and another flip" for damage, and is the best thing you can flip most of the time.

The only thing that overrides the red joker, is the black joker. The black joker is 0. It does 0 damage.

So my leader uses a spell that lets him shoot with 3 plus flips, I flip over my cards and take the highest. BLACK JOKER, 0, no choice. Even if it's the red joker.


Damage is interesting, a weapon might have "1/2/3" as its damage, or "3/4/7". The cards have values of 1-5 weak, 6-10 moderate, 11-13 severe; so if I flip a 4 for damage with the first weapon, I'd get 1 damage. If I got a 8 on the other weapon, 4 damage. If I cheated the red joker on, I'd do sever damage, 7, then flip another card and add the damage (so between 10-14 damage).

It's amazing how well they've balanced it though, the mechanism with card flips. the -/+ flips really make a difference; if someone wins a duel (stat + flip vs stat + flip) by 11+, he gets a +flip on his damage (flip two, take best), if he is 6-10 higher, straight flip, 1-5 better, negative flip, and if he has the same attack as your defence, 2 -flips.

This means that sometimes even if you don't have a card high enough to cheat to stop yourself getting hit at all, you can still lessen the blow by forcing your opponent to flip more. So if I hit you for 15, and you defend for 5, but then cheat so you have 15; I flip 3 cards and take the worst. If I get an 11 (severe), 13 (severe), and a 4 (weak), I take that weak ;3

Jollydevil wrote:Youll wake up in your mothers kitchen wearing a dress in no time!

Wait...there's a dress?

Commisar Wolfie wrote:Sounds pretty cool. I may have to give a little look see. I think my FLGS may actually carry some of the stuff. Just never saw anyone play it all.

A little late to the party but...

As an alternative skirmish game that would use the figs you (and your friends at the FLGS) already have, try "In The Emperor's Name" It's a free ruleset in the 40k universe and is based around warband size skirmishes of 5-10 figs a side.

http://thegamesshed.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/in-the-emperors-name/

My club gave it a go a week ago and really enjoyed it. It's fast playing and streamlined with just enough granularity to properly represent the various 40k races and charachters.