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Hmm....very interesting

I do prefer the Maelstrom stuff, especially their cyclops. Jabberscythe looks a lot more buff than it kinda is. They are a little better than the GW minos though I suppose

But on the bright side, Beastmen players can finally stop complaining about their lack of monsters, now they can complain about the looks and the prices!

My only issue with the Cygor/Ghorgon is the lack of body hair. They're beastmen. Where's the hair?

I think the models, like the Minotaurs, are done a disservice by the painting. Again, they're painted with hard highlights and shadows like armour rather than skin. Using a softer method on the skin would probably make them look a lot better.

Well well well I guess all my complaining about not having monsters for Beastmen but monsters for every other new army has been for not. Bravo Gw Bravo.

Huh... GW finally fills some of the gaps in the Beastman line, and they're completely underwhelming compared to some of the "secondary market" models already out there.

Can't say I'm remotely tempted by any of them for my own Beastman army. Since I'm not worried about playing at a GW store, I'll definitely be sticking with my non-GW options...

Valete,

JohnS

So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Thanks for the pics! Quite like the Jabber, and okay-ish on the others. I do think they were stuck in a no-win situation by doing a combined kit. The cygor is depicted as gangly and awkward, while the ghorgon is supposed to be a mountain of muscle.

The Maxmini Immortal is also a very cool alternative for those who aren't taken with the new ghorgon.

Big squig costs more than the dual giant kit?

must be huge

-Loki- wrote:My only issue with the Cygor/Ghorgon is the lack of body hair. They're beastmen. Where's the hair?

I think the models, like the Minotaurs, are done a disservice by the painting. Again, they're painted with hard highlights and shadows like armour rather than skin. Using a softer method on the skin would probably make them look a lot better.

For Chaos player love as well :'P
or else it would be awfully weird for GW to release not one but TWO plastic kits solely for unpopular beastman ( unless the 3 gets buffed in some sort of WD update lol )

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.


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Also: I'm happy with all 3 of the beastman critters finally getting models.

I was gonna collect Beastmen as my WHFB battle army, but that was entirely dependent on how the Ghorgon/Cygor would turn out. After seeing this... Im not so sure now.

Worglock wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.

Thank you for providing your definitive ruling on my impression Worglock, I am so glad you cleared up my own personal perception for me! And here I was thinking it was an actual Keeper of Secrets mislabeled several dozen times...

Worglock wrote:Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.

Know your GW history please.



It's very, very close to the classic KOS.

Thank you Loki

Its a male KOS

its got to be!

The Ghorghon would certainly be a great conversion base for a Keeper of Secrets.

I was all enthused re the Jabberslythe until I saw the 'Finecast' logo :(

So do we have any indication of how big that squig is? If monster-sized (and plastic), i'll definitely get one.

Clang wrote:So do we have any indication of how big that squig is? If monster-sized (and plastic), i'll definitely get one.

Finecast , drednought size ish

:\...not impressed. Ugly minotaur heads and weird "muscular-but-not" bodies.

Jabber's alright, Finecast isn't.

Terrible plastic Minotaurs + Giant Sized = Terrible Giant Plastic Minotaur. Of course I temper my criticism with the fact that there is very little in the Beastman line that I actually like, so my view is completely subjective here. I will say though that I'm surprised that any of these received kits. When I first read the Chaos Beastmen of Chaos book I thought these would be the 'Tervigons' of the Beastman line. It's good to know that I was wrong about that, but also bad to know that we still don't have the Tyranid releases I thought these would be the Warhammer equivalents of.

And I just finished a sentence with 'of'. Twice.

Anyway, the Chupathingy or whatever it's called I will reserve judgement for until we have a pic that doesn't cover up the detail with a fething camera flash.

EDIT: Just noticed that Jabba the Slyth is Finecost. Uurrgh... not good.

The Jabber it seems will look like it was attacked with the Vorpal if theres some bad finecast casting

Flubberscyth looks too similar to this for my liking

You say that like it's a bad thing. The Toad Dragon is fantastic.

LunaHound wrote:Big squig costs more than the dual giant kit?

must be huge

Last rumour I heard said finecast. So, large model in finecast = large price.

They're all ugly in a bad way. And I have to wonder whose bright idea it was to combine the two-handed, over-the-head pose on the Cygor with a head completely unsuited to it.

The cows look okay. No something I would buy for the model, but if I wanted them for the rules, I wouldn't mind the model.

The jabberthingy is pretty cool, if it weren't failcast I might have bought one just to add to my menegerie.

The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remembering what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

I'll be purchasing all of them. I'm a completionist and will want them solely as centerpieces in my display shelf. I rarely use any of the 3 in game, unfortunately.

LunaHound wrote:

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

A Ghorgon is an over sized minotaur according to its lore. They were the biggest and strongest of their tribe and ate all the rest, thus mutating into something much bigger and more violent. At least thats what their bray-shamans think.

Cygors are described as distant cousins to the minotaurs as well.

NELS1031 wrote:I'll be purchasing all of them. I'm a completionist and will want them solely as centerpieces in my display shelf. I rarely use any of the 3 in game, unfortunately.

LunaHound wrote:

RatBot wrote:The Ghorgon/Cygor aren't awful, but not all that great IMO. I rather like the jabberslythe, though not remember what the art in the book looks like (if there even is any), and not recalling anything about its description, I was imagining something more... slender and slither-y. I like it, though.

I like the quality of Ghorgon as well.
one issue and the only issue i have is.... it looks like an over sized minotaur lol

A Ghorgon is an over sized minotaur according to its lore. They were the biggest and strongest of their tribe and ate all the rest, thus mutating into something much bigger and more violent. At least thats what their bray-shamans think.

Cygors are described as distant cousins to the minotaurs as well.

ahhh if its according to the lore, then its fine.
I just dont like having "repeats" its hard to explain.

Hmm I'm not to sure about the Beastmen models. I see that the Ghorgon and Cygor kit was sculpted by Aly Morrison and he was heavily involved in the first wave of Beastmen models so they should look uniform. I'm impressed with the Jabberslythe as it looks as freaky as it's description suggests and like something from Warhammer Forge in that it reminds me of the Plague Toads and the Toad Dragon. I think the proportions of the giant figures look odd but I think that might have been intentional to encourage kit bashing with the current giant figure. I think the Ghorgon needs more mouths on it's torso but that can be easily done. There is definitely something unsettling about all three models and I can't tell if it's me disliking the figures or that they are doing what they are meant to do, which is unnerve people. I think it's a nice departure from the standard safe/acceptable figures. I'm looking forward to seeing the mangler squig and I hope they go back to the more classic squig rather than the gods awful cave squig mount. I'll certainly get the Cygor and Jabberslyth but I will wait and see what's in the kit before i commit to the Ghorgon. Now if we had a proper Christmas miracle they'd sort out the cost of the rares in the Beastmen army with a White Dwarf rules update.

Worglock wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:So... uh... the Ghorgon is a classic Keeper of Secrets? lol

Nice stuff though, even though I see a Greater Daemon there!

Well. It's a minotaur with 4 arms.

So you got that going for you.

Otherwise. No. It's not a Keeper of Secrets. It could be made into one if you wanted to put a lot of work into it. You know, slaanesh runes, jewelry, ornate armor, female anatomy that most warhammer players have only seen pictures of.

But out of the box? no.


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Also: I'm happy with all 3 of the beastman critters finally getting models.

Excuse me sir, I have internet. I've seen video of those parts.

Wow total waste of plastic kits, Horrible miniatures!