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DauntedFungus123 wrote:Thank you thenoobbomb no follower of chaos would slay Ka'bandha!

Chaos slays Chaos all the time. The brothers fight endlessly.

And remember, Khorne cares not from where blood flows, only that it does. Maybe Sanguinor is Khorne's secret champion, to test his other champions to see if they are worthy of spilling blood in his name...

Why is everone so obsesed with thinking sanguinor is chaos! He is Azkeleon who helps out BA when they need it
(P.s I think sanguinor is golden warrior who saves emperor, not Dante!)

why not?

DauntedFungus123 wrote:Why is everone so obsesed with thinking sanguinor is chaos! He is Azkeleon who helps out BA when they need it
(P.s I think sanguinor is golden warrior who saves emperor, not Dante!)

Why not? It's not proven that Sanguinor IS Azkaellon, only the Sanguinary Guard irrefutably believe so. Others seem to think he's a Warp entity given form in the physical realm. Note that the word 'warp entity' is used, not daemon, and not a follower of Chaos. I dont think anyone said that, and if they did they were jesting. Other things live in the warp, but not all follow Chaos. There's a fine difference.

On the other hand, it's been proven it was Dante who saves the Emperor (by giving Horus the chink in his armour), considering we all know he died then and there, battling Horus. How or why you believe Sanguinor is even there at that point I just dont even...

"Daemon"=/= Chaos

"Daemon"=Being who exists in the immaterium, and can exist in real space, but only for a short period before having to return to the immaterium.

The reason I am a proponent of the Daemon theory is more or less because I am following an Occam's Razor principle, because being a warp being explains the most of the issues that exist with Draigo and Sanguinor in the simplest fashion.
(Note, this does not mean that it is correct, just that it is the simplest explanation, and therefore, arguably, the most likely. 40k is in the end, whatever interpretation that the reader wants, and as such, this could be right for me, and wrong for you.)

DauntedFungus123 wrote:Thank you thenoobbomb no follower of chaos would slay Ka'bandha!

I would, just to prove I was badass, and that you should follow me. That is how Chaos goes, my friend!

On the other hand, it's been proven it was Dante who saves the Emperor (by giving Horus the chink in his armour), considering we all know he died then and there, battling Horus.

It was sanguinius who made the chink, not Dante. Dante is current BA chapter master and oldest non dread SM (unless you count sanguinor!) and beleives that he is the golden warrior. It has not been proved that sanguinius is the golden warrior, that is what people think.

DauntedFungus123 wrote:

On the other hand, it's been proven it was Dante who saves the Emperor (by giving Horus the chink in his armour), considering we all know he died then and there, battling Horus.

It was sanguinius who made the chink, not Dante. Dante is current BA chapter master and oldest non dread SM (unless you count sanguinor!) and beleives that he is the golden warrior. It has not been proved that sanguinius is the golden warrior, that is what people think.

Thats true. Sanguinor is dead and Sanguinius is a demon. I love wh40k

Sanguinor is dead and Sanguinius is a demon.

Sanguinius is dead. You think Sanguinor is Demon,get it right

Would be the same saying I am good at trolling.
Oh.
You didnt hear that.

Sanguinor is just a part of Sanguinius will or Azkaellon. The Inquisition is never right.

DauntedFungus123 wrote:

On the other hand, it's been proven it was Dante who saves the Emperor (by giving Horus the chink in his armour), considering we all know he died then and there, battling Horus.

It was sanguinius who made the chink, not Dante. Dante is current BA chapter master and oldest non dread SM (unless you count sanguinor!) and beleives that he is the golden warrior. It has not been proved that sanguinius is the golden warrior, that is what people think.

Wow, did I make a gaffe and a half or what? Yes, you are right. Not Dante, but Sanguinius. All these golden, nipple-armoured demi-gods look and sound the same to me!

DauntedFungus123 wrote:

Sanguinor is dead and Sanguinius is a demon.

Sanguinius is dead. You think Sanguinor is Demon,get it right

Damn it. They all sound the same to me. Cursed vampires

The Epic Chaosdude!!! wrote:

DauntedFungus123 wrote:

Sanguinor is dead and Sanguinius is a demon.

Sanguinius is dead. You think Sanguinor is Demon,get it right

Damn it. They all sound the same to me. Cursed vampires

As long as you mean Vlad vampires, it is okay...
If its Twilight..... *goes berserk*

On the subject of Draigo, i don't believe he is a daemon just because he is imprisoned in the realm of Chaos. Examples of heroes imprisoned but not daemons.

1. Uriel Ventris
2. Lysander
3. The hero from the "Hammer of Daemons" novel

It doesn't make you a daemon to be in the realm of chaos, just less likely to survive long.

My thoughts on the BA, is that they all share a massive psychic connection with the death of the Primarch from 10,000 years ago. It's not beyond the possibility that they resonate with each other (think Grey Knights, Holocaust or hammerhand). So when subjected to high stress/ rage/ overwhelming odds, they resonate sharing their mental stress of the primarch and this manifests as a shared ideal warrior made flesh, psychic physical representation of their Lord. Kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy, they genuinely believe their lord is with them and they unwittingly are casting a Psychic power as a group.

Fair enough with the Draigo points

So, the BA fulfill a specific set of circumstances needed to summon Sanguinor to aid for a specific period of time?

So, the BA fulfill a specific set of circumstances needed to summon Sanguinor to aid for a specific period of time?

I Don't remeber it being BA summoning him but him helping them when they needed it. Perhaps he can break out of the warp when they need him most but when he has finished he is automatically cast back again.

DauntedFungus123 wrote:I Don't remeber it being BA summoning him but him helping them when they needed it. Perhaps he can break out of the warp when they need him most but when he has finished he is automatically cast back again.

Just pointing this out for arguments sake:
"when they need him most", How does he know they need him, they call, or unknowingly "summon" him?

Just pointing this out for arguments sake:
"when they need him most", How does he know they need him, they call, or unknowingly "summon" him?

That was definately for arguements sake
Maybe he can see through from the warp or maybe every blood angel prays to him so he has a 'map' of people who need help?