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Dear People Who Pretend to Talk for the Entire Country,

We get it. You can't compete with conservatives in the realm of ideas so you'll simply attack people for a gaff in a debate. You'll denigrate conservatives as hicks and rednecks while defending the idiots you elected to run this country.

We can survive 4 years of the current guy, but really, 4 more years would just be awful. Please take him back Chicago, the rest of the country doesn't want him.

Thanks
People of the United States.

See, isn't that totally unhelpful and a waste of time? So why don't we focus on stuff like actual issues instead of running around calling other people and their politics idiotic?

Pyriel- wrote:

Physically speaking, yes.

Politically speaking, it's nastier than... well, an unmentionable nasty thing which I can't post on this fourm.

My god woman, how nasty can it get!?
lol

Maybe its could be as nasty as Illinois politics is corrupted.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:Dear People Who Pretend to Talk for the Entire Country,

We get it. You can't compete with conservatives in the realm of ideas so you'll simply attack people for a gaff in a debate. You'll denigrate conservatives as hicks and rednecks while defending the idiots you elected to run this country.

We can survive 4 years of the current guy, but really, 4 more years would just be awful. Please take him back Chicago, the rest of the country doesn't want him.

Thanks
People of the United States.

See, isn't that totally unhelpful and a waste of time? So why don't we focus on stuff like actual issues instead of running around calling other people and their politics idiotic?

Because calling other people, and their politics, idiotic is easier, and therefore more accessible.

Politics isn't necessarily about engaging with plebes, its about making plebes do what you want.


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halonachos wrote:
Maybe its could be as nasty as Illinois politics is corrupted.

Oh look, a joke about political corruption in Illinois!

This is a shining example of that rare trifecta of originality, topicality, and sterling wit!

ShumaGorath wrote:He should of just rolled with it when Mitt suggested the EPA.

Funny thing is I think Mitt was actually trying to help.

AustonT wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:He should of just rolled with it when Mitt suggested the EPA.

Funny thing is I think Mitt was actually trying to help.

Hell, he couldn't hurt Perry much worse than Perry's done to himself at that point!

I have no love for Rick Perry, but I think our system is failing a little when campaigns can crash and burn over minor flubs in silly, dog-and-pony-show debates that the media stages and covers in all the wrong ways.

Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency? Isn't this supposed to about a) your ideas, and b) your ability to govern? I say that knowing how incredibly naive that sounds, of course.

gorgon wrote:Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency?

Seriously? he can't remember his OWN lines that he's practiced over and over.
I'm worried about him remembering which button he's supposed to push/push only in an emergency!
How would a man that can 'oops' in such a manner act in closed meetings with other world leaders?
I really feel he's not capable of the job he's applying for.

alarmingrick wrote:

gorgon wrote:Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency?

Seriously? he can't remember his OWN lines that he's practiced over and over.
I'm worried about him remembering which button he's supposed to push/push only in an emergency!
How would a man that can 'oops' in such a manner act in closed meetings with other world leaders?
I really feel he's not capable of the job he's applying for.

You really feel that he's not capable of the job because he missed one line of a prepared speech?

I wonder how you feel about the Telepromptor in Chief.

AustonT wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:He should of just rolled with it when Mitt suggested the EPA.

Funny thing is I think Mitt was actually trying to help.

I find it strange that he stated he wouldn't advocate cutting the EPA when on the spot, but that he's cutting the departments of education and energy. Isn't killing the EPA a wet dream of Perrys theoretical voter base?

biccat wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

gorgon wrote:Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency?

Seriously? he can't remember his OWN lines that he's practiced over and over.
I'm worried about him remembering which button he's supposed to push/push only in an emergency!
How would a man that can 'oops' in such a manner act in closed meetings with other world leaders?
I really feel he's not capable of the job he's applying for.

You really feel that he's not capable of the job because he missed one line of a prepared speech?

I wonder how you feel about the Telepromptor in Chief.

There's 'missing a line', then there's that little show. i swear if there had been
a rock big enough near by, he would of hid under it.

Just fine with Barry. Thanks for asking.

biccat wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:

gorgon wrote:Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency?

Seriously? he can't remember his OWN lines that he's practiced over and over.
I'm worried about him remembering which button he's supposed to push/push only in an emergency!
How would a man that can 'oops' in such a manner act in closed meetings with other world leaders?
I really feel he's not capable of the job he's applying for.

You really feel that he's not capable of the job because he missed one line of a prepared speech?

I wonder how you feel about the Telepromptor in Chief.

He's hella good with that teleprompter though.

ShumaGorath wrote:He's hella good with that teleprompter though.

Can't deny that. He reads other peoples words out loud like a champ.

Not really what I'm looking for in a President, but maybe that's enough for others.

I find it interesting that even for all his gaffes Bush didn't ever throw his hands up and just implode like that during a debate and/or press conference. He may have hemmed and hawed, or inadvertantly said something hilarious, but he never gave up. So, yeah, I think it is fairly indicative that he is not ready for the job.

ShumaGorath wrote:
I find it strange that he stated he wouldn't advocate cutting the EPA when on the spot, but that he's cutting the departments of education and energy. Isn't killing the EPA a wet dream of Perrys theoretical voter base?

Yeah, that's what was so strange.

In other news, here is the campaign spin.

And further hilarity.

biccat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:He's hella good with that teleprompter though.

Can't deny that. He reads other peoples words out loud like a champ.

Not really what I'm looking for in a President, but maybe that's enough for others.

Well as long as we exist in the hyperbolic realm of glenn becks toilet bowl, what are you looking for in a president? Keep in mind, the rules of bias chicken is that you have to keep going further over the top of the last time. You've implied that Obama is a ghost written hack who is an unintelligible mute when he's not in front of a scrolling text wall, so I'm expecting something pretty impressive from you!

alarmingrick wrote:

gorgon wrote:Are people supposed to think that Perry will accidentally eliminate the wrong government agency?

Seriously? he can't remember his OWN lines that he's practiced over and over.
I'm worried about him remembering which button he's supposed to push/push only in an emergency!
How would a man that can 'oops' in such a manner act in closed meetings with other world leaders?
I really feel he's not capable of the job he's applying for.

Yeah, seriously. Remembering lines doesn't really have anything to do with governing, and it's not like nothing he said was insulting or scandalous.

IMO, people on both sides of the political spectrum find debates to be worthless until someone on the other side makes a small "error" or displays some personal behavior that people latch onto (Gore "rolling his eyes too much", for instance). Then suddenly debates are HUGELY important and telling about a candidate.

It's beyond silly to me.

biccat wrote:
Can't deny that. He reads other peoples words out loud like a champ.

Not really what I'm looking for in a President, but maybe that's enough for others.

Are you under the impression that Obama is the first President to use a speechwriter, and a teleprompter?

ShumaGorath wrote:

biccat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:He's hella good with that teleprompter though.

Can't deny that. He reads other peoples words out loud like a champ.

Not really what I'm looking for in a President, but maybe that's enough for others.

Well as long as we exist in the hyperbolic realm of glenn becks toilet bowl, what are you looking for in a president? Keep in mind, the rules of bias chicken is that you have to keep going further over the top of the last time. You've implied that Obama is a ghost written hack who is an unintelligible mute when he's not in front of a scrolling text wall, so I'm expecting something pretty impressive from you!

Zombie Reagan.

Shining braaaaaaaains on a hill.

I'm not sure I've implied that Obama is a ghost written hack, nor that he's an unintelligible mute (not sure if that makes sense). I do think that he's a idiot of below average intelligence with funny ears and who doesn't realize when he's being controlled.

biccat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

biccat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:He's hella good with that teleprompter though.

Can't deny that. He reads other peoples words out loud like a champ.

Not really what I'm looking for in a President, but maybe that's enough for others.

Well as long as we exist in the hyperbolic realm of glenn becks toilet bowl, what are you looking for in a president? Keep in mind, the rules of bias chicken is that you have to keep going further over the top of the last time. You've implied that Obama is a ghost written hack who is an unintelligible mute when he's not in front of a scrolling text wall, so I'm expecting something pretty impressive from you!

Zombie Reagan.

Shining braaaaaaaains on a hill.

I'm not sure I've implied that Obama is a ghost written hack, nor that he's an unintelligible mute (not sure if that makes sense). I do think that he's a idiot of below average intelligence with funny ears and who doesn't realize when he's being controlled.

That was really unimpressive. I expected better. You didn't even do it right. You're awful at bias chicken.

biccat wrote:I do think that he's a idiot of below average intelligence with funny ears and who doesn't realize when he's being controlled.

Sometimes the irony is so thick it would take an acetylene torch to cut through it.

See, that's what i love about the Right. "funny ears".
he's so 'horrible' as a president, you had to go with appearance.

Grakmar wrote:Dear Texas,

We get it. You don't like big government. So, you've decided to elect incompetent people to office in the hopes that they won't be able to accomplish anything. That's totally within your rights.

However, the rest of us are sick of having idiots in charge. The last one was survivable, but this one is like a caricature of the last one. Please take him back, we don't want him.

Thanks,
The other 20(19 in 04) states and DC

Fixed it for you.

AustonT wrote:

Grakmar wrote:Dear Texas,

We get it. You don't like big government. So, you've decided to elect incompetent people to office in the hopes that they won't be able to accomplish anything. That's totally within your rights.

However, the rest of us are sick of having idiots in charge. The last one was survivable, but this one is like a caricature of the last one. Please take him back, we don't want him.

Thanks,
The other 20(19 in 04) states and DC

Fixed it for you.

Wow, a lot of states voted for perry in 04!

He was referencing Bush II, we shouldn't pretend that a majority of states voted against him and the electoral college magic put him in office through voodoo.

Technically speaking, Al Gore got the majority vote, and it was in fact the electoral college which was the reason Bush won.

Note that I'm not saying Gore would have been a better candidate, especially given how his politics have turned post-election...

Melissia wrote:Technically speaking, Al Gore got the majority vote, and it was in fact the electoral college which was the reason Bush won.

Note that I'm not saying Gore would have been a better candidate, especially given how his politics have turned post-election...

The 2000 election was proof the electoral college works. But I doubt that concept will ever click with you if it hasn't already.

I'll note here that if you bothered to read my post (you didn't), you might notice that I didn't take a position on whether or not it "worked", only correcting you on a basic fact which you got wrong.

Melissia wrote:I'll note here that if you bothered to read my post (you didn't), you might notice that I didn't take a position on whether or not it "worked", only correcting you on a basic fact which you got wrong.

Ill note here if you read my previous posts (which you didn't) you might notice I said a majority of the states voted for Bush II hence the electoral college didn't use voodoo to make Texas' vote against all the other 49 states. Its ok I don't expect you to read for context. It might take too much time away from decrying the Nazi Christian Republicans who live in your neighborhood.

AustonT wrote:
The 2000 election was proof the electoral college works. But I doubt that concept will ever click with you if it hasn't already.

Florida is a small state that needs its interest protected?

While the water shed issue was Florida and it's, what would you call it? "irregularities" the fact that Gore won the popular vote and lost the electoral college is basically the exact scenario the college exists for.