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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

Thanks for your help BTW.

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I had thought you wanted to keep your idea which is why i suggested a compromise...
Oh well that's not such a bad idea...

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

Thanks. I'll put it in then.

I don't really look at it as a compromise, but it sort of it because writing good and original fluff is a challenge between making something new and keeping it within what's canonically acceptable. I could write about a sector that was built the ground up by Imperium bureaucrats and is exactly the same structurally as every other sector, but that would be boring. At the same time, I can't have something that's independent of the Imperium.

For example, I've noticed that the first draft of people's fluff often mentions that their world or sector or whatever is "semi independent" from the Imperium. To an extent, everything is semi independent as the Imperium is a confederation, but anyone who is openly different or rebellious beyond a trivial amount gets destroyed. It is possible, but it really needs to be planed out, and the reason shouldn't seem like it was made up just as a plot fixer. When I was writing my fluff, I created a Sektor that naturally happened, or had the potential to be semi independent from the Imperium, but it was just luck essentially. What happened, in brief, is the Imperium arrived at the Sturmkrieg Empire, they want to assimilate Sturmkrieg, but they want to do it as easily as possible, and make it look like the people wanted to become a part of the Imperium all along. The Imperium helps a revolutionary faction overthrow the Sturmkrieg Empire on the condition that they be subordinate and organize the new Sturmkrieg Sektor in a way that benefits the Imperium (in some ways they're a puppet government). One thing that is done is that Sturmkrieg give independence to the Rotstein Sektor, but the Imperium continues to see all of it as just the same Sturmkrieg and so only deals with Sturmkrieg. Sturmkrieg doesn't interfere or give instructions to Rotstein at all, and so they end up drifting off and doing their own thing. It wasn't my plan to have it work out that way, but I think it would make sense given the way that Sturmkrieg becomes a sector in the Imperium.

I hope this isn't boring or totally TL;DR.

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Just added new pictures.

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http://en.sturmkrieg.com/Aschknas

Just updated the fluff for Aschknas.

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This would be a better discussion to talk about and plan Sturmkrieg in.

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I have like little to add except the Ciralix subsector, just keep the Tau away, and I'm pleased. I suggest to put it in the northeast of the Sturmkrieg.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

Sure, you can do that. That's fine. I'll make sure the Tau stay away from it.

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BTW, does anyone know if there's any good cheap or free Yiddish transliteration software? It could also be online, similar to Google Translate. Although Google Translate would be unacceptable as it would translate and not transliterate. I would like to have Yiddish letters, but in the language of Sturmkrieg.

I have tanks with Yiddish letters on them; I'll upload pictures as soon as I find them.

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I read about the null-thingy. The general idea is good, but nulls are so incredibly rare. Also a place in the IoM without psykers is like having our ships sail around the globe without GPS, maps and eyes at full speed. I can understand that the place can have many more nulls than other places, but that would likely be a conscious breeding-strategy from the government. That can be an excellent idea for Sasha or Gretel to instigate to show off their competence. Of course if really unscrupulous they can inbreed them, but that's usually not the preferred way to go. Anyway the numbers are way off.

Even so, if you want more nulls, you likely have more psykers on average as well. More minds to possess for daemons, which likely should be a major problem. Ordo Malleus would be all over the region, but that fits fine with my own fluff. The nulls were made to counter-balance the psykers. Ouf with more psykers, less stability. But for me that would fit with the darkness I think the sector should be. Where rabble-rousing priests would have mobs burning suspected witches, Redemtionists running rampant, unseen psykers and null-like people trying to skulk away from them. The streets would likely be like in Der Untergang, the governments would be extremely dogged with the Prussian morals with their vices and virtues.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

As a breeding strategy, it would be done long before the time of the Sturmkrieg Sektor, probably before the Strumkrieg Empire. Most likely, it would something that's rumored to be. That could make for good storyline. I'll add it to the null article.

I'm probably not going to have more psykers, since I planned for Sturmkrieg to be a less psychic. There can still be witch hunts though.

The ships could travel the same way as the Tau. Alternatively, there could be a giant router on Sturmkrieg that would broadcast a signal to the ships, and 1,000 psykers a day are sacrificed to the machine spirit. (I'm mostly joking)

It sounds like you have a good idea. The only problem with the Prussians is that it doesn't really fit with the setting of the Sturmkrieg Sektor, which is based around the common people. I'm planning to have the Sternkampf revolution (joining the Imperium) be similar to the French and Russian revolutions.

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More nulls without more psykers I think is somewhat impossible to do. It's okay if you don't like the many complications psykers bring, but you sort of can't just have it that way as nulls are the solution to psykers and they are actually proportionate. If you don't want many psykers born there, fine, but don't go for the null-thingy, then go for that the repressive nature of the sector rapidly in general flushes out psykers extremely quickly, and does the same with the nulls. Though for me I sort of liked the solution with the mutations running totally unchecked, even if that means mucho, mucho psykers.

The IoM is not revolutionaries they go in and take whatever they want, so they would likely side with the rulers as long as the quota is met. They don't accept a whole sector to peacefully co-exist. They go in and takes. I can see some sort of revolutions going on, but I see the government more in line with the German Empire and Tsarist Russia and maybe Soviet. Of course the revolutions would likely be from Redemtionists, so you shouldn't really want them to rule. That's the disadvantage in the name of the sector. You likely wanted it brighter and sunnier than me and my compatriots are willing to go.

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Aren't all known nulls carted off to become the Culexus Assasins?

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DeadlySquirrel wrote:Aren't all known nulls carted off to become the Culexus Assasins?


It's pretty likely for that to happen, although not necessarily. The world may not be in contact with the Culexus Temple world, or an Inquisitor might take an interest in the null. Culexus nulls have to have significant power, enough that they can be trained and augmented to control it.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

I wasn't intending for the Imperium to suddenly go all subtle or anything, but that they use the revolutionaries as a way of having to fight for the sector themselves.

It's also more interesting than just having the Imperium be suddenly recognized as the supreme authority.

I'm not really sure there's anything in the canon about psykers and nulls having to be proportional.

The German Empire was one of the themes going into it; that and the Soviet Union.

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The IoM has alternative A: "You will accept out sovereign."

Or B: "Or we crusade you to death."

Not C: "We will let you for unknown reasons make your revolusions."

Also Stormkrieg for me is not revolutions, it clings of trench-warfare or Kursk the tank-battle of WWII or Stalingrad. If you wanted a place full of revolutions you couldn't have chosen a worse name. For me Stormkrieg should be the grimdark of grimdark, not some lightly brighty place to ease up at WH40k.

I'm not certain myself, but it's boring having a sector without psykers. We already have the Tau, GW's answer to Daniel Bryan (an extremely boring wrestler). I'd rather see the sector with the psykers overrepresented than anything else, as too many is making Tau-like humans, and that's really tiresome reading.

You can't have the sector about the common man, that would be boring, for me this sector should be fatalistic and grim like Krieg. If you want revolutions at a sector you should have called it Guevarr or of some similar revolutionary thingy.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

I'm working on the Oktoberfest Revolution:
http://blog.sturmkrieg.com/

The purpose behind the revolution wasn't because the Imperium was going subtle, but because it would save them the time of actually doing the invasion themselves. Sturmkrieg is way out on the eastern fringe, where it would be difficult to create and send a large force.

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That belongs on 1d4chan, not here.

Seriously this sector should be one large DKOK (like the comments at Warseer pointed out) not Tau-like humans. Nevermind the boring non-psykers.

You can't just choose a name everyone but you associate with certain things (trench or tank-warfare) and drum your view through. Or you can, but I can now see why few people want to hang at your wiki.

Sorry it's a harsh but true reality.

Of course you can override this, but that means adios for my part, and likely everyone else.

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It was intended to be funny, but it does have a serious side.

They're not really Tau-like, and are just as dark as the rest of the Imperium, but generally act in a slightly better way with certain things.

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The IoM has it's good points, but the name you have chosen are badly fitting with the mood you want. For me I think WWI/WWII not revolutions. Sorry.

No psykers = No fun. If you want fun, overcrowd the thingy with psykers, then you have loads of fun and Ordo Malleus all over it, and actually a place worth a damn in my book.

It's a bachelor-party without a stripper in my book if you keep them without psykers.

Sorry the name of this sector sounds like the grimdark of grimdark. Seriously, if you want to be taken seriously then think of grimdark of grimdark or step aside.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

There's still a lot of WWI and WWII in it. The revolution only happens in the beginning, and is only a small part of the whole story line. There's also thousands of years of the Sturmkrieg Empire before the arrival of the Imperium.

There's still psykers, which allow for plenty of fun witch hunts.

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Well a revolution unbacked by the Inquisiton is a dangerous proposal. And likely either a result from Redemtionists (really not good), Genestealers or Chaos Cultists. That sound more like things that should put grey hairs onto the heads of Sasha and Gretel. Especially if they targets some of their friends which they have given Planetary Rulership for loyal service to the IoM. Also a coup d' etat can happen by ambitious sons of nobles (read Zachary Carrus), but that's about installing a competent ruler in the place of a less competent ruler not the revolutions in itself and backed ty Inquisitors.

For the history of the place, have them attached to the IoM from between M35 to M38 by crusades. Can create some cool storylines, but I in general focus on the events around M42.

Nowadays the population suffers from mutation running rapid. 1 in 1000 has the potensial to become a psyker. Worse the null-population has all but evaporated as the AdMech of the sector has weaponized the nulls which means their essense are poured into powered weapons by the paranoid nobles who fears their own latent psyker powers can one day daemon-possess them. The null-podgroms has created a gaping hull growing by the day, and another opporutnity for Gretel and Sasha to show themselves as competent. Also the Navigator houses in the sector suffer from such rampant mutations that none of them any longer looks like humans. All are twisted parodies of the sacred human form.

That would be how I would write the sector, turn your basic idea on it's head.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

I was planning to focus on M41, and have the revolution just be a small aspect of backstory. The main focus is going to be on the actual battles, like you mention.

I've also started a discussion about the revolution here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/431396.page

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That's better, but annoyance to Gretel and Sasha smacks better for me. They should be devout servants of the Golden Throne.

The revolutions sounds to me like a rather cheap idea, so I would scrap them unless they served some plot. Especially as they seem to break with your two chars, Gretel and Sasha.

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I was planning on having them serve the Imperium and Terra anyway; the sector owes its "independence" (from the Sturmkrieg Empire) to the Imperium.

I think the revolution is helpful, since it establishes how Sturmkrieg becomes a part of the Imperium. I'll take your suggestions into mind though.

While Sturmkrieg is a very large, hammer like force, its beginning is a lot smaller. Their tactics change once they become established.

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

I've thought about this for a while, about the religion that the Sturmkrieg Sektor should have. Obviously it would have to involve the Emperor in some way, and I also wanted it to be something that was similar to the Mechanicum, both because I like the Mechanicum and because of the German theme.

I was wondering about whether or not I should have different religions for different areas of the sector for fun in diversity, or if I should have a constant religion, which I think might be better.

I have my thinking explained below.

I think it could be very good story wise for Sturmkrieg to have a single, unified religion based around machines, and maybe adopt one of the Mechanicum beliefs that the Emperor is the same as the Machine God, or maybe the people involved with making Sturmkrieg a part of the Imperium could introduce the idea to them.

http://tumblr.sturmkrieg.com/post/18599274205/idea-for-sturmkrieg-religion

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Here's pictures I worked on. is there any way I can change the size?

Location of Sturmkrieg in the Imperium
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Hunting Jaguar
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Leman Russ- the front has more red, as this one is unfinished
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Sturmkrieg Chimera that was built on Aschknas
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Scharzenkommando soldier
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Map of the Sturmkrieg and Volianvan Sectors
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Gretel Ehrenstein, commander of Aschknas and the Ehrenberg Sektor
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Achknas stormtrooper sergeant
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Sternkreuz
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I decided to work out the psyker issue. Here's the conclusion that I came to:

-There can be plenty of locations outside of the Sektor where the Scharzenkommando and Sturmkrieg Inquisition fight Chaos and witches.

-Having only an increase in nulls keeps with the anti psychic theme, rather than splitting it.

-In relation to the above, an increase in psykers would be trying to have it both ways.

-Additionally, increasing the number of psykers and nulls would be completely Mary Sue as it would give the best of both situation, including all the anti psyker benefits of nulls with none of the downsides of lacking psykers

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Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor

I just had an idea for creating instability within the Sturmkrieg Sector.

Possibly have ultranationalists who want, among other things, to go back to the days of the Sturmkrieg Empire. This would include oppression of the Rotstein Sektor, and feelings that the current Sturmkrieg Sector was too friendly toward Rotstein. This could lead to them coming up with their own methods of dividing their forces to prevent uprisings, since they probably wouldn't have received a lot of information form the Imperium on how to do so because of their location.

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