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Red Comet wrote:I don't see how you can't loot some things..I mean the Grey Knights have Tesseract Labyrinths and their origin is clearly from the necrons.

The Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos got that Labyrinth as a Gift from one of the Named Necron Lords, for "donating" five platoons of Imperial Guardsmen to his collection.

NL_Cirrus wrote:I'm saying it would be either impossible or so close to that it not be attempted because all 'cron tech either phases out or self-destructs -if phase outs impossible- ans if you did capture a piece of 'cron tech then you'd still need to power it and the only things that generate power for the crons -that i'm awarer of- are the 'crons them selves or equally -if not more so- animated and dangerous things.

As for the Tesseract Labyrinths I don't know much about them, but I would guess they're either Necrontyr in origin and there for would be exempt from the above statement or self powering, but I don't really know what they are so.

The new codex even mentions the necrons providing an ork bigmek with a couple of doomsday cannons to use the weapons against an eldar planet. The attempt failed when the curious bigmek tried to open up one of the cannons and thus blew himself up, causing his Waaagh! to scatter. This pretty much proves that orks can use necron tech without supervisors.


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Oh, and the necron codex is really a great read, grab it off a shelf at your FLGS

I dont see any reason why Orks with their make belive power should loot everything but Necron tech.

Mankind should be having a nice storage of Necron tech too now.

Zomjie wrote:Yes orks can 'loot' anything, the only problem is that the necron gear is so advanced that only their robotic bodies can use them, making them useable only for bashing in heads, which is exactly what the orks would do with them.

And necrons vehicles take necrons hardwired into them to be used, so they are even more of no use to orks except fot spare parts if they dismantle the living metal somehow (and being orks they would propbably smash them till they got it into pieces)

the new codex tells a story of a ork warboss who was given a dozen doomsday arks. They certainly proves non-necrons can pilot them.

The same warboss nuked the planet he was on into oblivion when trying to get the damn things to work

Orks can loot anything as far as I'm aware. If it can move, an Ork wants it, and will do anything necessary to get it. Of course, after you blow out the AI, it could work...

Warboss Gideon wrote:If the Orks can work with it, they can make it into whatever they want
The only problem would be getting Necron tech in the first place
once they get it, they make it Orky
Therefore it instantly works for them

Big Mek 'Eadcrumpa sure did make those dozen Doomsday cannons he received, work exceptionally well.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:The same warboss nuked the planet he was on into oblivion when trying to get the damn things to work

I always picture this scene when I read that portion of the codex

The ork belief it can make anything hapen trust me ok dakka dakka dakka

If orks can make anything happen with belief, How have they ever lost a battle, All orks always believe they will win so by your logic, Skull snatcher, they can't lose, And yet they do.

NL_Cirrus wrote:If orks can make anything happen with belief, How have they ever lost a battle, All orks always believe they will win so by your logic, Skull snatcher, they can't lose, And yet they do.

Orks never lose a battle.

"Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die, so it don't count as defeat. If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always come back for annuver go, see!"

Silliness of that aside, they don't necessarily purely believe they will crush the enemy beneath their feet and "win" the battle in a traditional sense. They believe that no matter what happens, they'll win through their own Ork logic.

Actually, they can't lose.

The ork codex says so:

Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!


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Damn, Locclo beat me to it

A little off topic, but I really wish that people would stop taking the whole 'ork tech self belief' thing to such extremes.

The dex does say that somehow the innate psychic abilities of the Orks allow them to use weapons that when in the hands of an imperial scholar do not work, but I don't think it's to the point of:
'A metal tube with a handle and no other gubbinz works as a slugga in the hands of an ork'

Yes they have the ability to make things work by the power of their minds, but I think that the equipment and vehicles still has to have the basic principles of their particular function (i.e. an automatic rifle must have, even in a most rudimentary fashion, the basic firing mechanisms of an automatic rifle). They cannot simply macguyver up a bunch of guns from some copper piping and sticks and 'think' they work.

Anyway, onto the subject of looted cron tech. There seems to be a lot of dishing out of cron tech to lesser races (c'tan phase swords, tesseract labyrinths, etc) so I'm assuming, seeing as lords tend to pick and choose their gear, that cron tech is not tied to its user by default, it's kind of 'registered' when you start using it and then can be unregistered when you stop using it, but registered equipment phases out/self destructs. So if orks got hold of a bunch of cron equipment sitting about they could probably work with it, they may be able to reverse-engineer it enough to get it to work for them, which is perhaps where the whole positive-thinking kicks in...

NL_Cirrus wrote:If orks can make anything happen with belief, How have they ever lost a battle, All orks always believe they will win so by your logic, Skull snatcher, they can't lose, And yet they do.

Well there is constant war...

NL_Cirrus wrote:If orks can make anything happen with belief, How have they ever lost a battle, All orks always believe they will win so by your logic, Skull snatcher, they can't lose, And yet they do.

Two things. First, "Orks can make anything happen with belief" is stretching it a bit. Orks can, essentially, load the dice of the universe. An Ork Shoota is basically a high-caliber machine gun, and if you fire a machine gun for a long time it'll overheat and may well start to warp (with catastrophic effects); an Ork can hold the trigger down all day, snatching more magazines off the bodies of the dead when he runs out, and his shoota isn't likely to warp because he never thinks it will. An Ork can sometimes hack right through power armor with a hunk of sharpened metal on a stick because he's convinced that no stupid looking suit of funny 'umie metal can stand up to a proppa Ork bashing, and if that hunk of metal hits a seam, it's likely to hit at JUST the right angle to force the plates apart and hamstring the Space Marine wearing it, even though that's incredibly unlikely. That's the power of the Waaagh! in action. Anything CAN happen; Orks make the things they WANT to happen a little more likely.

And second; Orks never lose a battle. Did they kill everyone else on the field? Orkz iz da best! WAAAAGH! Did they get beat up and run away? We'll get dem panziez next time! WAAAAGH! Did they all die? Don't matter none, Gork'll just belch us back into another body, and THEN they'll get those grot-fondlers wot killed us! WAAAAGH!

But still, Orks don't believe they're invincible. Why would they? Ork society is immensely hierarchical. Every Ork learns from the first day of their lives, that there is ALWAYS someone bigger, meaner, and stronger, and that someone is perfectly capable of playing the accordion with their crumpled spine if they piss 'em off too much. Even Nobz and Warbosses know that.

The only Ork who might consider himself invincible would be Ghazghkull, and guess what? Ever since Grotsnik bolted that plate into his head, Ghazghkull's NEVER LOST A FIGHT. No one, human, Space Marine or Ork, has been able to stand toe-to-toe with the Beast of Armageddeon and beat him in physical combat for more than fifty-seven years. So yeah, maybe he DOES consider himself invincible. . . and he's kind of got a point, there.

Didnt orks loot an entire Necron Tombworld and used the teleportation tech to loot the surrounding worlds?

I'd say thats a good indication they can use necron tech

kenshin620 wrote:Didnt orks loot an entire Necron Tombworld and used the teleportation tech to loot the surrounding worlds?

I'd say thats a good indication they can use necron tech

I've never heard that, I'm not saying that I think you're an outright liar or anything, I'd just like to know where this is from, cuz it sounds like it'd be full of lolz.


Anyway, I suppose they could as a Lord did give Orks a few doomsday arks in the Codex, but then when attempting to tamper with one they blew their entire WAAAGH!!! and the planet they were on to oblivion.