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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 21:37:28
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I really like the armor. His head and arm seem a little like on clean lines but really like the armor for possible storm troopers. I'm looking forward to how this turns out.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 21:48:54
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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mad robot wrote:So the consensus is lose the extra plates all together?
It most certainly is NOT.
The plates are what draw me to the model. If I was considering Greatcoat models for the Traitor Guard army I mentioned, I'd choose your armor plated chests over all others if the quality and price were competitive. Without the plates, you'd have to be of equal or lesser cost AND superior quality.
The plates are WHY I like these models.
I hope your printed one, though, does not indicate the quality we can expect.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 21:54:50
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That render of the character looks very nice, but you definitely need the finished product to be sharper than the printed render appears to be in those pix. The render's nice and sharp, but the detail in the print looks to soft...
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
JohnS
"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 22:07:43
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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I hope your printed one, though, does not indicate the quality we can expect.
Apart from the face, what details you think should be addressed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 23:02:14
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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It's not really saying "Greatcoat" to me right now. maybe due to the lack of, you know, legs.
Cool heads, though.
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Working on someting you'll either love or hate. Hopefully to be revealed by November.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 23:21:30
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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I like the armour but I think the model is pretty chunky especially next to that elysian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 23:22:42
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
Atlanta,Ga
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Not bad would like to see what the regulars look like before I say yea or na.
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60000Salamanders : 50000
guard/inquistion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 23:41:39
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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mad robot wrote:I hope your printed one, though, does not indicate the quality we can expect.
Apart from the face, what details you think should be addressed?
The definition looks ok, but the surface looks very rough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/30 23:43:05
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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mad robot wrote:So the consensus is lose the extra plates all together?
I would keep them, but lose the rivets. Instead it will look like they are molded on to the breastplate. Alternatively, lessen the number of rivets. Limit them to 3 or 4 rivets per plate maximum. They aren't large enough or do they require the over-engineering associated with the number of rivets on there now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 00:22:00
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Dont lose the rivets. If anything add more.
the helmet is way too plain...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 00:40:42
Subject: Re:Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Major
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Depends on the weapons,I think they would work good as Veteran or Stormtroopers for some Valhallans.Especially if you could add some gasmasks,Backpacks and other personal equipment. Automatically Appended Next Post: MDizzle wrote:All I can say to that is COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
All the way,It would be cool the see a 28mm wargame or a range of models!!I Would buy some,more than likely 50 if they are muti part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 01:13:43
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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Keep the feedback coming guys but please be patient. We haven't had chance to really finish the figure yet.
I hadn't anticipated this exchange for another few weeks or so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 02:01:25
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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mad robot wrote:Keep the feedback coming guys but please be patient. We haven't had chance to really finish the figure yet.
I hadn't anticipated this exchange for another few weeks or so.
Which one? The commander or basic trooper?
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 02:28:11
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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I'm referring to the trooper but neither one is completely finished yet. As shown in the renders that were in the OP, the trooper still needs a bunch of work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 03:07:36
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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mad robot wrote:I'm referring to the trooper but neither one is completely finished yet. As shown in the renders that were in the OP, the trooper still needs a bunch of work.
Just clarifying for folks. thanks!
Personally they look good, but price to model ratio is my deciding factor.
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 03:49:53
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Good God-if GWs IG looked like these guys, I'd be an Imp player. Wow. Just...beautiful.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 04:05:01
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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mad robot wrote:I hope your printed one, though, does not indicate the quality we can expect.
Apart from the face, what details you think should be addressed?
Trying not to sound like a jerk, but... most of them.
Look at the model compared to the render. The lines on the render are so flat and the angles are so sharp. It looks incredible. The details on the models look rounded and "soft."
Perfect example: Compare the bottom of the model's greatcoat to that of the render. The render is all flat and sharp angles, but the model's coat almost seems to "tuck under," rather than end definitively.
The left hand looks a bit off, too.
The cuffs on the sleeves and the shoulderpad do it, too. They're more rounded than sharp. In all honesty, it's the look of the render that got my attention, but the actual model wouldn't get a second look.
I also agree with insaniak that the surface looks rough.
Of course, I mean that all constructively. Not trying to come down on you.
I'd love to get a better look at that powerful fist. I can't tell if it lives up to the render or not.
Eric
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Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 04:58:07
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Like it so far. Looking forward to hearing more about this.
Also, this is hands down better then other "SciFi Greatcoats" out their.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 10:23:32
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Not too shabby at all. I look forward to further updates!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 10:40:10
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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I think the stark light source in the render is giving people a false impression of what it's actually like. Then when you see the print out and the contrast between the shadows and the raised portions just isn't there, it doesn't look as good.
I'd lower the contrast on your renders, and if you can, give the printed miniature a black wash and while it's still wet, take the wash off all the raised surfaces with a clean brush.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 13:58:51
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Chandler, AZ
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The lines on the render are so flat and the angles are so sharp. It looks incredible. The details on the models look rounded and "soft."
No need to apologize, I expect & appreciate that kind of feedback from this forum.
In a nutshell, you're correct. I've been looking over the print and many of the edges are not as sharp as they should be. This is primarily around the armor plates but it is present elsewhere too. Some of it is a personal preference, in my opinion the edges on the sleeve for example won't be as sharp as on the armor plating.
Some of it is also attributable to the way the model is rendered, it's been lit to show off the edges clearly.
Addressing the edges will be added to the list of refinements as we continue to finish up the model and those changes will then be translated to the commander figure as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 15:53:23
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dont make me spend my money!!!
Good work... im looking foward on this...
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If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page
Please, if you think im wrong, correct me (i will try to take it constructively). |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 16:02:36
Subject: Mad Robot Minis: Greatcoat troopers (original I know right?)
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The New Miss Macross!
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One thing that I would suggest is to try and make some of the edges larger and more pronounced on the 3d model. With shadows/lighting, the side edges of the armor where they head towards the armpit look quite pronounced but on the model are more muted and less defined. That effect will only increase when you put a coat of primer and paint on the model. Other than that, I think you've got a very nice idea there.
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