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Jonesyboy12 wrote:I am also a fan of the National Lampoon Vacation movies. These are the best, as well as Fletch 1 & 2, Caddyshack, anything with Rodney Dangerfield. Slap stick goofy stoner movies I love.

The National Lampoon movies and Caddyshack are really well thought of, and I think the first Fletch movie was as well. But in particular Caddyshack is held up as a classic comedy

The good, really funny slacker comedies will make the list of really good films when they're actually good films. It's just that most times, for whatever reason, they're actually really terrible (the rate of failure isn't as bad as horror movies or romantic comedies, but it's pretty low). Thing is, ultimately, Land of the Lost was not a very good example of the type. The jokes were pretty simple and quickly forgotten, as was the whole movie ultimately.

Not that that means you shouldn't enjoy it, I'm a sucker for police action movies, to the point where I'll enjoy them even when they're really not very good. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't mean that just because I sat there loving every second of it, that it is actually a good movie.


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rodgers37 wrote:I don't really like reviews that much to be honest, someone said comedy is down to your own sense of humour. Well all films are down to your own everything, you can look at any film (including comedy) and look at it from a production/academic view point, and say it was well made for what ever reason. But wether you like the film or not, isn't necessarily down to the production values.

The trick is to not just look at the scores critics give films, but why they gave those scores. If someone described a film as being an hour of tedious pop philosophy nonsense, finished off with an amazing last half hour of non-stop action that's really well done, that should be enough for people to think 'awesome I love action I'll go see that' or 'gah, I hate the pseudo philosophy rubbish you get in movies these days and I will not go see that'.

The score doesn't really matter in that sense.


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d-usa wrote:Critic reviews are always hit and miss, for me the last Transformers movie is a good example.

Critics blasted it for being juvenile, only focused on explosions, and only showing giant robots beating the gak out of each other with no real morals or lessons learned.

Then the critics did exactly what they are supposed, they told you what the movie included, and then you decided if that's what you wanted to go and see.


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Locclo wrote:The problem I have with reviews is that they can only inherently say whether the movie was good or bad, and what about it was good or bad. They can't tell whether someone would be interested in it or not. One example was a movie a few years ago - The King's Speech. I heard my friend say it was a brilliant movie, it had a great story and great acting. I told him that I gave two gaks about the movie because it's historical drama, something I just don't care about. The movie doesn't sound remotely interesting to me. So while the reviews might have given it all kinds of praise, it just doesn't interest me.

Once again, the critics and your friend did exactly what they're supposed to do, they told you what the movie was about, and then you made up your own mind if that's what you're interested in.

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Jonesyboy12 wrote:I also watched Harold and Kumar guantanamo bay for a 2nd time. 1st time i didn't like it and shut it off after like 20 mins, but this time I was with some friends drinking and smoking lots and was actually laughing alot.

I find it particularly amusing that you list your criteria for liking a movie as altering your perception of reality. Don't get me wrong, I did enough of that when I was in my 20's and enjoyed a lot of movies, but I don't really like a lot of them nowadays. Sadly I just grew out of liking dick and fart jokes and find myself rolling my eyes whenever I see a preview for the latest.

Sadly I'm a filmmaker, which makes me a snob when it comes to movies. My favorite Will Ferrell film was Stranger than Fiction, I liked Punch Drunk Love with Adam Sandler, and I absolutely hated Grandma's Boy which everyone else in the world seemed to love. Oh well.

I don't think this movie got bad reviews. Maybe mediocre, but my current favorite film is the Fountain, by Darren Aronofsky.

I as well did not like Grandma's boy which I agree is overrated. I also didn't really like 40 yr old virgin.
One film that got really hyped up which I did really enjoy was The Hangover. I remember my friend had rented it, and as it was going in the dvd player I just thought the premise was so dumb and it was going to suck but I ended up laughing out loud for a fair bit of it. I was happy that happened. As for Superbad. This movie was hyped up alot and I found it so/so,. I give it like a 6 out of 10. I only remember 2 things from that movie, Mclovin and when that kid gets period blood on his leg. hahhaa

Saw.

All of them.

Every single one of them ranges from good to great.

10%-48% on Rotten Tomatoes, with an average of 26.85%

I sorta liked the first Saw movie, but they went quickly downhill from there.


I seem to recall Boondock Saints getting terrible reviews when it first came out, and now look at it.

And its hard to have a "serious" movie discussion about poorly reviewed movies that you like without talking about the 70s era Kung Fu movies that are everywhere.. Most of them are great, and you know what you'll get with names like "36th Chamber of Shaolin" or "Shaolin Vs. Wu Tang". "Ghost Crane Death Punch" (I made that last one up, but it still fits.

I am seriously a sucker for 1970s Kung Fu movies.

RatBot wrote:Saw.

All of them.

Every single one of them ranges from good to great.

10%-48% on Rotten Tomatoes, with an average of 26.85%

I've seen the first Saw movie. It's a fairly contrived, and really entirely silly plot, and it's only real idea of any note was to do more elaborate, cinematic torture porn than what we'd seen before. I've heard the films only got weaker from there.

I think you're confusing 'what I happen to like' with 'what is actually good'.

The first one was a decent concept, and executed well. Beyond that, it slid into torture porn.

I think the major problem was that the plot was always the same, and the overarching story kept getting more and more convoluted as the series went on.

I'd like to point out the Final Destination series here as well. It's gotten generally poor reviews over the series, but some of the movies have actually managed to stay interesting despite having a near-identical plot. Final Destination 5 had a neat little twist at the end, and it did what the previous two movies didn't - it actually introduced some new plot information.

Locclo wrote:The first one was a decent concept, and executed well. Beyond that, it slid into torture porn.

I think the major problem was that the plot was always the same, and the overarching story kept getting more and more convoluted as the series went on.

I'd like to point out the Final Destination series here as well. It's gotten generally poor reviews over the series, but some of the movies have actually managed to stay interesting despite having a near-identical plot. Final Destination 5 had a neat little twist at the end, and it did what the previous two movies didn't - it actually introduced some new plot information.

See, weirdly (considering my love for the Saw movies), I don't think any of the Final Destination movies are all that great. Not terrible, but not great. Hell, I don't even remember the plot information you mentioned in Final Destination 5, that's how unmemorable it was for me.

As for Saw's convoluted plot, that's actually probably the clincher for me. I like convoluted plots.

EDIT: Just looked up Final Destination 5 on Wikipedia... and yeah, that actually was a neat twist.

I really rather enjoyed Demolition Man, as I recall.

Albatross wrote:I really rather enjoyed Demolition Man, as I recall.

Demolition man is great, during the summer ITV3 or some rubbish channel like that put it on like every other weekend, think I watched it 3 times.

As for Saw, I've only seen the first one and it was ok. From what i've been told the rest go majorly down hill, the first one (at least for me) appears to have a interesting plot, it may seem like a silly idea but its done well enough in the first film. I might try and check out the next couple, but I doubt I will like them.

blood reaper wrote:I watched Land of the lost, it wasn't that good. Stonner jokes aren't the best.

I never knew there was a whole field of comedy dedicated to Sausages that are wrapped in kebab meat and deep fried.

I liked the first saw movie because I hadn't seen any similiar to that before. I thought the idea/concept was cool. It took me by surprise at first. But the saws after that I didn't care for much. Well I only saw saw 1 and 2, didnt care to see the others.

Final destination, same thing. Liked the 1st one. Didnt love it, just liked it, then after that meh.


Oh nd about the 70's Kung fu movies. I HATE THOSE!. lOL. I just really really cant get into them. Same with 60's westerns. My dad loves them, I hate them. Maybe its the sound and lack of quality. I just find the sound horrotious (spell right?) on those old movies.

Did anyone like Freddy got fingered by Tom Green? Last time I saw that movie I laughed my ass off! But I know alot of people who absolutely DETEST that movie.

Did anyone like Freddy got fingered by Tom Green? Last time I saw that movie I laughed my ass off! But I know alot of people who absolutely DETEST that movie.

Sounds like a bad porno.

I enjoyed Last Action Hero a whole lot. But no one else does

I also really enjoyed 'Freddy Got Fingered'. I've seen it more times than I care to mention.