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2011/12/13 00:31:40
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Dakka Veteran
Upper East Side of the USA
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Warmaster wrote:I've had a lot of success with the following
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Librarian, 4-5 powers
Elite
Vindicare
Troops
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
Fast Attack
10 strong Interceptor Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts, mc hammer
Heavy Support
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
The only thing I really ever feared facing with it was tri-storm raven grey knights (the ravens with the mind strikes just eat the foot list up).
I found it better than the all purifier list because it was more versatile. It plays the reserves game really well, almost everything can deep strike if needed to keep your opponent off balance, and just brings an amazing amount of shooting to the table.
This list is interesting. Lots of dakka. Only 1 hammer though. Have you faced a heavy assault based army yet?
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2011/12/13 02:27:19
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Pete Haines
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Joe Mama wrote:Remulus wrote:Joe Mama wrote:Has anyone made a decent footlist that isn't all Paladins? Lots of GKSSs could mean lots of firepower.
See, the gkss weapons are pretty short-mid range (24 inches) so you really need those rhinos to get em close enough to open fire.
I guess you maybe could make a gkss footlist, but why go out of your way for a worse list?
Why do you assume it is worse? Also, Terminators and Paladins both have the same exact range as the Strike Squads, so I am confused why you are singling GKSSs out in that regard.
How many other foot units are there? and they are worse because the weapons or shorter ranged and need to get closer
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2011/12/13 02:36:56
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Shepherd
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Joe Mama wrote:Warmaster wrote:I've had a lot of success with the following
HQ
Librarian, 4-5 powers
Elite
Vindicare
Troops
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
10 strong Strike Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts
Fast Attack
10 strong Interceptor Squad, 2x psy-cannons, psy-bolts, mc hammer
Heavy Support
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
Dreadnaught, tl auto-cannon x2, psy-bolts
The only thing I really ever feared facing with it was tri-storm raven grey knights (the ravens with the mind strikes just eat the foot list up).
I found it better than the all purifier list because it was more versatile. It plays the reserves game really well, almost everything can deep strike if needed to keep your opponent off balance, and just brings an amazing amount of shooting to the table.
This list is interesting. Lots of dakka. Only 1 hammer though. Have you faced a heavy assault based army yet?
Depends what powers he uses.. 1 hammerhand from the libby, one from the squad and MoT str7+ 2d6 vs vehicles.. Don't need hammers then.
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The enemy of my enemy is a bastard so lets kill him too.
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2011/12/13 02:38:27
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Dakka Veteran
Upper East Side of the USA
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No Remulus the GKSS weapons are not short ranged compared to Paladins and Terminators, their ranges are all the same. When I ask about a Non-Paladin footlist, and you say the GKSS one is worse, because of range, you sound like you don't know what you are talking about.
If you are talking about foot lists in general being worse, then you should make that clear, because after two posts you are as a clear as mud.
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2011/12/13 02:43:08
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Shepherd
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Joe Mama wrote:No, the GKSS weapons are not short ranged compared to Paladins and Terminators, their ranges are all the same. When I ask about a Non-Paladin footlist, and you say the GKSS one is worse, because of range, you sound like you don't know what you are talking about.
If you are talking about foot lists in general being worse, then you should make that clear, because after two posts you are as a clear as mud.
One reason they are different is the fact that pally/term can do is do max shots and move. Though with regular guys you will have to play a more vanilla marine type game cause your not as durable and lack flashy powers like cleansing flame to even the odds. Though in that list for the interceptors did I see a hammer? im not sure if thatll be as handy depending where they come in or shunt to since after those moves they can't assault.
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The enemy of my enemy is a bastard so lets kill him too.
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2011/12/13 03:28:52
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Dakka Veteran
Upper East Side of the USA
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That is a difference, unlike Remulus' completely wrong statement.
Although max shots isn't important. Shots per points spent is.
Point per point, GKSSs put out just as many psycannon shots on the move as terminators, and DOUBLE the shots when they stand still (5 GKT, 1 psycannon, 225 points, 4 shots - 10 GKSS, 2 psycannon, 220 points, 4 shots moving, 8 standing).
GKTs are literally the worst thing a person can pick if the goal is to get a lot of psycannons. Paladins, Purifiers, Purgation squads and GKSSs are all better.
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2011/12/13 12:24:01
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Pete Haines
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Joe Mama wrote:That is a difference, unlike Remulus' completely wrong statement.
Although max shots isn't important. Shots per points spent is.
Point per point, GKSSs put out just as many psycannon shots on the move as terminators, and DOUBLE the shots when they stand still (5 GKT, 1 psycannon, 225 points, 4 shots - 10 GKSS, 2 psycannon, 220 points, 4 shots moving, 8 standing).
GKTs are literally the worst thing a person can pick if the goal is to get a lot of psycannons. Paladins, Purifiers, Purgation squads and GKSSs are all better.
Wait? whats your point? I just said its good to put purifiers/gkss in transports.
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2011/12/13 20:20:58
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Dakka Veteran
Upper East Side of the USA
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I am not going to repeat my point. Before, you spoke unclearly at best, wrong at worst. Just forget about it and move on.
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2011/12/14 03:58:19
Subject: Is a decent GK foot list or foot list / deep strike list possible?
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Dakka Veteran
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To the assassin question if anyone needed it, under unit composition it lists 1 (unique), ergo only one of each type.
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