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2011/12/14 00:17:29
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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purplefood wrote:Psykers are born.
Sorcerors can be artificially created.
A psyker can be a sorceror but not vice versa.
That's my personal thoughts and unless there is a coex which specifically states otherwise I'm not changing...
Thousand Sons Sorcerors are psykers.
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2011/12/14 00:19:33
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Shepherd
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Well tell its writer. He used the word sorcery A LOT.  Which is stupid but so is daemon weapons, daemonhosts in a gk force rant rant etc
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The enemy of my enemy is a bastard so lets kill him too.
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2011/12/14 00:50:45
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Sorcery and Psykers both have to be Psykers. Sorcery requires psychic powers in order to access the powers of the Warp . Thousand Son weren't all Psykers, just their upper echelons were. Those that weren't Psykers were turned into Rubric Marines.
A Librarian using his psychic powers to shoot lightning bolts isn't Sorcery. A Psyker accessing the energies of the Realm of Chaos in order to do the same thing is Sorcery.
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2011/12/14 01:00:44
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Untrue. Daemons can be contacted through ritual and sacrifice as well. Cults do not need a psyker to exist. Summoning a Daemon is sorcery. Making warp rifts too...Though I guess they are the same thing.
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2011/12/14 01:02:12
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Basically, psychic abilities are your own. You channel the warp with your own power. Sorcery invokes the help of warp entities. A psyker can be a sorcerer, but a sorcerer does not necessarily have to be a psyker. And one race's psychic abilities (Eldar) count as sorcery to another (Imperials).
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2011/12/14 01:04:03
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Shepherd
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Sorcery depends on the theme of the powers. Channeling chaos-ish abilities is considered sorcery. Brain is also correct in that non psykers have used rituals and gained sorcery from pacts.
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The enemy of my enemy is a bastard so lets kill him too.
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2011/12/14 01:07:21
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Calling Eldar Farseers and such sorcerers has more to do with the Imperium's intolerance than anything else. Technically, they are psykers.
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2011/12/14 02:00:26
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Psykers are psychic indiviuals and psyker powers are thing like "I think hard and your brain turns to jello" Sorcery is possesing lore/knowledge of the eccentricities of the Warp ie "if at THIS temple, at THIS time 7 comrades are BETRAYED by their leader and impaled on seven 8-foot-tall spikes in an 8 pointed star formation and their leader disembowles himself on THIS sword then implaes himself on the final spike to complete the start of chaos, a warp portal will open and such-and-such daemon/lord will walk through" THATs the difference.
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2011/12/14 02:06:17
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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KamikazeCanuck wrote:purplefood wrote:Psykers are born.
Sorcerors can be artificially created.
A psyker can be a sorceror but not vice versa.
That's my personal thoughts and unless there is a coex which specifically states otherwise I'm not changing...
Thousand Sons Sorcerors are psykers.
'A psyker can be a sorceror but not vice verse'
That's litterally what i said...
A sorceror cannot be a psyker.
A psyker can be a sorceror.
Meaning: A psyker can bargain for higher power but a sorceror needs to bargain to get any power.
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2011/12/14 08:08:47
Subject: What's the difference between psychic powers and sorcery?
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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purplefood wrote:KamikazeCanuck wrote:purplefood wrote:Psykers are born.
Sorcerors can be artificially created.
A psyker can be a sorceror but not vice versa.
That's my personal thoughts and unless there is a coex which specifically states otherwise I'm not changing...
Thousand Sons Sorcerors are psykers.
'A psyker can be a sorceror but not vice verse'
That's litterally what i said...
A sorceror cannot be a psyker.
A psyker can be a sorceror.
Meaning: A psyker can bargain for higher power but a sorceror needs to bargain to get any power.
A sorcerer CAN be a psyker - nothing stopping a psyker from bargaining for even more power. Just because they started as a psyker doesn't mean they can't be a sorcerer.
So. A psyker CAN be a sorcerer (but isn't automatically a sorcerer just because they have psychic powers) but a sorcerer doesn't HAVE to be a psyker.
Most of what's been said seems to match what I initially thought, hooray.
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