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You see now you are trying to twist my words around. I never said mine was the best and yours didn't matter. At least that was not my intention. I am just saying that I don't feel your list is at its optimal peak. You are right you didn't ask for comments. So you seems to think that your list is great. No need for imput. So why even post it anyways? If you will rememeber I did answer your question. i choose the list that I thought had the best ability. I just felt that you should no my reasoning behind my choice. Do with it what you will.

I stand by what i said. 5 kommandos are not going to do anything but die. The squad with Snikrot has a better chance of success I will give you that. He has the extra chance to come where ever he is needed. As for the others you don't know where they will come. They might come out on the wrong side. You also don't know when they will come out. That is just to risky of a move to make. For that to be the base of your army is just not the best option IMHO. But you seem to be set on it and that is your choice. I just think you need to be ready for some loses as they will just not cut it in the tourney enviroment.

Good Luck!

Oh my bad on the strength part, i forgot about that. So maybe ur right, but i still didnt take into account the commandos getting shot before they can get into assault range, so i still stand by my statement and agree with balsak that 5 orks is just too small to do anything other than maybe make lootas run...

balsak_da_mighty wrote:You see now you are trying to twist my words around. I never said mine was the best and yours didn't matter. At least that was not my intention. I am just saying that I don't feel your list is at its optimal peak. You are right you didn't ask for comments. So you seems to think that your list is great. No need for imput. So why even post it anyways? If you will rememeber I did answer your question. i choose the list that I thought had the best ability. I just felt that you should no my reasoning behind my choice. Do with it what you will.

I stand by what i said. 5 kommandos are not going to do anything but die. The squad with Snikrot has a better chance of success I will give you that. He has the extra chance to come where ever he is needed. As for the others you don't know where they will come. They might come out on the wrong side. You also don't know when they will come out. That is just to risky of a move to make. For that to be the base of your army is just not the best option IMHO. But you seem to be set on it and that is your choice. I just think you need to be ready for some loses as they will just not cut it in the tourney enviroment.

Good Luck!

Am I really twisting your words? Or you just forgot what you wrote? Here I'll quote it for you

I know my 1k list would give you a really tough time.....

Enough fire power to kill all your trukks first turn and then its a shooting gallery for me. You don't have enough fire pwoer to kill my walkers. Your kommandos mean little to me. Yes snikrot will charge my lootas and I will lose a couple for sure. I will probably kill your squad back as the are still ork and I double your numbers. If I don't your squad gets shot by other squad of lootas or my shoota boys. The squad that are outflanking will not be able to deal with my kans as they are what covers my flanks.

If that doesn't translate to 'my list is way better and your list sucks I can beat it with my eyes closed' then i don't know what does.

From that point on I just simply felt the need to show you just how very wrong you are about this claim to absolute dominance over my apparently failing list. And i believe I succeeded in stating all my points with facts, math hammer and strategy into account. And yes you did answer the question you did state which one you liked but then you kept going on and on about how crappy the list was because I wouldn't combine the kommandos and what a terrible idea it was. When from my point of view this is the best idea for them to add pressure and give me some extra PKs on a list that has little anti vehicle power.

We have a difference of opinion clearly, perhaps would've been wiser to just let it be. I still feel that at 1k i can get away with the small unit of kommandos. In bigger point games i would def increase the unit sizes.

Forcast wrote:Oh my bad on the strength part, i forgot about that. So maybe ur right, but i still didnt take into account the commandos getting shot before they can get into assault range, so i still stand by my statement and agree with balsak that 5 orks is just too small to do anything other than maybe make lootas run...

So your response is to say 'oh yeah you are right...but you are still wrong!' lol smh...

I won't even get into it with that lets agree to disagree my point and i still maintain it is that the kommandos are there to add pressure to the opponent who doesn't know where they'll strike from thus will avoid the edges. That's their purpose and if they do get to join in whenever they show up then thats just icing on the cake.

Ok fine, oh wise an powerful. You do what you think you need to do and I will call it that.

I was just trying to point out that your list might have troubles. Maybe I could have writin down alittle better. But my point is still valid. If you want to run that list then by all means run the thing. I just wish i could be there to watch it fail. I am not trying to be mean bvut it will fail. it is a horrible list and no one can tell you different. All the mathammering in the world will not help you out when the dice are thrown on the table.

I am pretty much done. You apperently don't think or want help. If you are so sure about your lists. Then why even ask us? Are you not a grown up to choose what army you want to choose by yourself. You need little old us to help you? You want me to roll your dice too little boy? Geesh!

Next time if you don't want help with a list make sure you say so. After all that is what this forum is for helping people with lists.

Good Luck!

Yes lol the forum is for helping people with lists, but not everyone is looking for edit advice.

You've responded in some of my other threads and you actually stuck with the topic and was very helpful, but in this one it seems that you completely missed the point of what my question was about.

I made 3 lists that im happy with and wish to play, but obviously i cant run all 3 in 1 tourney. So i wanted to pose the question to other players on which one they would recommend that I bring thats the whole reason this is a poll!

Why on earth would i make a poll on something that im planning to edit to begin with? That makes no sense...anyway im happy that you are so adamant about how badly my list would fail and who knows perhaps it will but im equally confident that my list can beat that list you posted.

And im more than willing to Vassal it if you wish just to prove the point of how effective this strategy can work.

Anyway it seems that Dakka list will be the one as it's clearly the most popular choice.

And for the record I shoudln't have to say 'im not looking to make changes' because this thread is clear about it's purpose and furthermore it's a friggin poll! and because it's about army lists...it goes in the army list section! It's not my fault that you came and treated it like every other thread...

At the very least I can acknowledge things. It seems to me you have issues with realizing when you could be the one who's made a mistake, but anyway glad we can put this discussion to rest.

Dakka for sure.

You have only 5 targets in the KoS list, and all your nobz are footy. I think as powerful as that list looks on paper, a gun line would eat you alive. I shudder to think what a 1000 pt NewCron or 1000 pt IG list would do to Gorka/KoS.

That being said, my lists tend to look more like your Dakka list. Maybe I'm not an outside-the-box type of thinker.

DrG

OK then dont post on forums asking for advice, then get pissed when people try and help, just keep it to yourself and show up to tourneys that I'm in so i can get a free win.

Whoa...
I just read the thread. Simmer down you two. It's a game... especially with orks... who cares about competiveness. I mean, their trucks are "ramshackle" their tanks are stolen and have buttons that say "don't press that" and one of their HQs can kill itself in a spectacular fashion. I mean that's why I play them... no one expects me to win so the pressure is off.

G

Forcast wrote:OK then dont post on forums asking for advice, then get pissed when people try and help, just keep it to yourself and show up to tourneys that I'm in so i can get a free win.

How many times must i repeat that i wasn't asking for advice?

lol and what tournaments are you in? I'd be happy to grant you this free win you speak of...

and as i pointed out before there's always vassal...that's the one thing i give that program credit for. It's a great way to shut up people who apparently have never lost a game with their so called almighty list that crush everything else anyone else can come up with lol



I gurantee though that win or lose i would've at the end had fun and enjoyed playing my army.
If you are just copy and pasting everything the 'net' tells you to take then good for you, you can face off against opponents with identical lists at your next tourney and have fun in the mirror match.

I still don't know why you wish to stick your nose into this debate, your point earlier was shot down and now ur obviously mad because you were wrong..jeez.