Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Yah if you dont charge with HE Spearmen you fight in 4 ranks (basic, supporting, spears, being a silly HE)

HE spearmen do become the nastiest thing on the gaming table when Mindrazor is cast on them, but unless they are able to make that extra rank of attacks be able to do damage not much gets accomplished. Str3 attack, even with an extremely high hit rate, isn't going to kill many enemies. Especially ones with good armor saves and/or high toughness.

If they get Str buffs and/or made more resilient then can be nasty. otherwise they don't kill fast enough before they die themselves.

The problem with relying on magic is that your magic can get shut down, unless you have Teclis. Teclis wrecks the power curve by making the things the elves need to perform a Certainty and that brings them from meh to OP. other HE mages can do his job, but they don't do it as reliably or as powerfully. And, with such poor troops, one bad magic phase can see your army fall apart. And many armies specilize in creating one bad magic phase for their opponents so they can get that one combat round where they demolish you.