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**vagabond.**

1) New bottle design.
2) 'Better color range'
3) Costs more, even though they made next to no real change.

They did this last time, on a smaller scale, when they changed from the funny square type pots to round ones. Round ones that I think contain less paint.

**baritowned**

It's not just the paint guides, the modeling guides are AWOL as well. They've actually been gone since some time last week, I figured someone would have noticed by now...

**Exdeath**

Count me in for not liking any change. I actually kinda like the GW bottles since I don't thin or mix much and I just scoop up paint straight from the lip of the lid. Droppers are just a bit finicky and need you to use a palette.

And the guides being gone are really annoying. I was using the Venerable Dreadnought technique to do my metallics, and now I have a War Walker paint guide bookmark on my list I can't for the life of me remember what I was going to use it for.

**vagabond.**

baritowned wrote:It's not just the paint guides, the modeling guides are AWOL as well. They've actually been gone since some time last week, I figured someone would have noticed by now...

I noticed when I went to get some ideas for my new dark eldar, because they had a tutorial on how to do lightening over a raider.

I personally think its a combination of; the articles where outdated horribly (TENTACLE PINK FTW), new paint range and they are releasing a new painting guide book.

**baritowned**

Just remembered that two of my FLGS said that they were told to let their current paint supply run out. If GW is changing the paints, and not going to droppers (which I wouldn't mind), I hope they're at least adding the tabs to get the lids to stay open like the foundation and washes have.

**DarkStarSabre**

Grimtuff wrote:
ArmorOfContempt wrote:OK, I'm not buying an more Snot Green.

But you're okay with Scab Red and Vomit Brown right?

I'd be more concerned about Bubonic Brown.

**Bewareofthephil**

I noticed this just as I went to build my Devilfish. Had it not been removed I might have realised not to plastic glue the entire top section of the craft together before the dividing inside wall is in. I ended up with a few pieces leftover when I built the kit due to doing things and gluing them in the wrong order. The instructions in the box weren't very useful at all.

**Thorn678**

Someone beat me to the bubonic joke =(

I was going to say that engineering the black death was just GW's 1st step in global domination 1000 years in the making...

...they emptied bottles of bubonic brown onto the local rat, tick, and flee population <_<;;

**Bounty**

Since we're into the silly now, I had a silly occur yesterday:

GW is pulling the entire line because they're now blending a low level radio isotope into all paints. This will allow GW employees to pass a geiger counter over a model, and tell instantly whether more than 50% of the paint is GW paint. Models of less than .05 rad will not be allowed in official GW play.

Note: there is no TRUTH to this, I just made it up. But it sounded so DAMN TRUE. I fully expect to see this on some rumour site now.

**matphat**

VGC is my go to now anyway.
The only thing I have a hard time walking away from is the Mechrite Red.

But that too shall pass...

**The_Juggler**

Bounty wrote:GW is pulling the entire line because they're now blending a low level radio isotope into all paints. This will allow GW employees to pass a geiger counter over a model, and tell instantly whether more than 50% of the paint is GW paint. Models of less than .05 rad will not be allowed in official GW play.

This is an awesome hoax

Just crazy enough to be crazy, just believable enough to make people consider it for a moment.

**leohart**

Doable? Definitely. Economically doable? Meh.

**Bounty**

The_Juggler wrote:
Bounty wrote:GW is pulling the entire line because they're now blending a low level radio isotope into all paints. This will allow GW employees to pass a geiger counter over a model, and tell instantly whether more than 50% of the paint is GW paint. Models of less than .05 rad will not be allowed in official GW play.
This is an awesome hoax
Just crazy enough to be crazy, just believable enough to make people consider it for a moment.

OMG, I'm looking at this and a follow -up hoax rumor occurs to me:
"Gale Force 9 to release depleted Uranium bases - extra weight elimiates slippage and tipping, while uping the rad count of models."

**ArmorOfContempt**

matphat wrote:VGC is my go to now anyway.
The only thing I have a hard time walking away from is the Mechrite Red.

But that too shall pass...

It's hard because Vallejo Heavy Red's got a purple tint to it. Vallejo is my favorite paint in the world, their paints are amazing, they cover well, thin well, are inexpensive, come in dropper bottles, the VGC line is spot-on when it comes to replicating the GW line, and you can still get all the good colors that GW stopped selling for whatever reason, but that red is just too purple! CURSES!

**Thorn678**

Is VGC loaded with WAY TOO MUCH medium like VMC? Does it require shaking for like 5 minutes before getting any pigment out instead of matte medium? Does it flow well - like maybe somewhere between GW and P3?

**Zuul**

Has anybody tried to pull the tutorials up on the wayback machine yet?

**Bounty**

Zuul wrote:Has anybody tried to pull the tutorials up on the wayback machine yet?

Yes, but as they're not 'pages' but JSP return results that look like (and decode to) pages, they aren't crawled by Archive.net or Google.

If you have one of the OLD links (pre-09 IIRC) that might work.

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Edited: Just found this on UnderEmpire

Games Workshop Customer Service wrote: wrote:Hey there,

Thanks for writing in to us. As you've noticed, some of the articles on our web-site including many of the painting guides have been removed. Most of these articles have been out of date for some time and used paints that are no longer available. Our hobby books such as 'Eavy Metal Masterclass, the How To Paint books and White Dwarf, contain an array of painting guides, and our Hobby Center staff are always willing to help out with painting techniques – just pop in and have a chat with them if you have a store close by. We also show plenty of painting tips on "What’s New Today", sharing the techniques used by hobbyists all over the world. With the new blog, this advice will be even easier to find, so don’t forget to keep checking back. You can also call our Customer Services department for advice too. The number to call is 1-800-394-4263.

We're not sure when new articles will be uploaded to our web-site, but rest assured that as we go forward more and more will be added to build up our library again.

We apologize for any inconvenience. If you have any further questions, then please call us at 1-800-394-4263.

Madison Blair
Games Workshop Customer Service

**ArmorOfContempt**

Thorn678 wrote:Is VGC loaded with WAY TOO MUCH medium like VMC? Does it require shaking for like 5 minutes before getting any pigment out instead of matte medium? Does it flow well - like maybe somewhere between GW and P3?

I haven't had problems with it. You still need to shake but not all that much. It does need thinning, but then again, all paints do.

**Thorn678**

Sounds good. VMC is just way too much medium - drives me crazy.

On a sidenote, I got over dropper bottles really quickly. I actually prefer pop tops now... don't really know why.

<3 me my P3 bottles.

**matphat**

Droppers all the way.
I have lost more paint to drying on pop tops than I care to imagine.

**Todosi**

It seems that the real reason for them pulling the articles is that they were all in the new painting book. How could they sell the book if the content was on the website for free?

**Bounty**

Todosi wrote:It seems that the real reason for them pulling the articles is that they were all in the new painting book. How could they sell the book if the content was on the website for free?

What book where?
links?

**leohart**

Todosi wrote:It seems that the real reason for them pulling the articles is that they were all in the new painting book. How could they sell the book if the content was on the website for free?

Because the website version is low resolution, the link to click and increase the size never works.

I am not sure if GW web team is deliberately trying to be bad. Many times the pop-up lightbox-effect bigger size do not work (especially for the stage-by-stage). The RSS feed has no content, just title. The RSS feed has extraneous blank content. Site is badly designed (no account for different resolutions/devices).

Oh well.

**matphat**

I've never liked the step by step guides either. They were always a little buggy for me.
Plus, the intartubes is FULL of ACE tutorials that make the GW tuts look sad.

**AlexHeap**

Todosi wrote:I am not sure if GW web team is deliberately trying to be bad. Many times the pop-up lightbox-effect bigger size do not work (especially for the stage-by-stage).

About 6 months ago I emailed the web team about this as I was trying to look at the bigger pictures for one of their tutorials. They replied to me saying that the larger images were no longer on their server which was why it wasn't working,

Knowing a bit about websites myself I opened up the source for the page the tutorial was on, grabbed the link for the larger images, downloaded them and emailed them to the web team along with some edited code that would fix their lightbox problem.

Happy with myself for doing my good dead for the day I left it for a few week and then checked back to see if the tutorials were working. Turns out they weren't and the web team hadn't even replied. I guess they just had much more important things to do.

**leohart**

@AlexHeap: I feel the presence of Chaos power in this.

My guess is: they can do it but someone high up told them not to.

**Todosi**

Looks like they yanked the articles because all of the new paints will have different names. What a cockamamie idea.

**eorltheyoung**

It's all part of GW's masterplan to p**s off as much of their customer base as possible and provide as little service for as much cost as possible obviously.