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TheAngrySquig wrote:

That seems like going off a bit half-cocked, any deeper reason?

AFAIR they just don't believed that it's _OLD_TERRA_ that tries to unite Mankind and saw themselves as true inheritors of ancient glories, what other reason do you need in grimdark future? Planets were thrashed for less than attacking Imperial ships.

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Fair nuff, it is the IoM

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.


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Connor MacLeod wrote:I'm not sure the technology is neccesarily more 'advance'd back then. What it was is more commonly available. They had more baneblades, they had antigravity vehicles, they had (I believe) Rhinos and Predators, etc. Back then the warp was alot calmer (so supply lines were more stable) and you had the Emperor and Primarchs to keep the AdMech and ADministratum honest (otherwise the AdMech would keep the good tech to themselves, and even if they didn't the Administratum through the Munitorum would keep all the useful stuff stockpiled because they think tech is more important than gear. Until your Muntiorum stockpile world falls to chaos that is.)

Technically the only thing stopping the Imperium from fielding AG vehicles and such now is politics and/or logistics. We know of lots of planets that (at the required levle of tech advancement) have fliers and AG vehicles and skimmers of all sorts (hell if you look in the Apocalypse stuff, the Vultures/Valkyiries use suspensors!) but the 'normal' IG supply lines probably don't carry the right parts to handle it (a ham fisted attempt at 'standardization'.) - so the IG either fields such vehicles until they break down, hope to come across a world or work out of a sector that has access to parts for that vehicle, or forgo use of grav vehicles and just go with wheeled and tracked vehicles. And sentinels.

IIRC as well there was a garrison regiment in one o fthe 3rd edition IG Codexes that was mentioned as having AG craft requisitioned form the local world they guarded, albeit in small numbers. (They also had troops trained in zero gee and had an insystem vessel for their personal use.)


1. nah. it depends on neccessary and 'repetitive productions', STC printouts available to Admech alone doesn't make 'advancements'. the 'infantry-level' Laser weapons become more and more advanced because of Admech repetitive productions throughout the Galaxy made them not only experiences HOW TO make 'small' laser weapons ( technological knowledge acquired by practitioning not by lecturing), but also to understand how does it works, and next a small tech chapel earned its own 'tips' to improve the weapon productions (and the product itself). the technology that's considered 'unneccessary' (as there's an 'economical superior' alternatives. such as Plasma Executioner cannon VS 120 mm battlecannon) or illegal. (such as A.I.) will have less productions.. Loss of knowledge (and knowhow) to produce is one thing. but the reasons why AG vehicles became rare and rare today is because of that AdMech (and Imperial bureaucrats) viewed AG vehicles having the SAME capability as an actual jet VTOLs (Valks and Vultures) while the AG vehicles cost more. the Imperial bureaucrats then chose VTOLs instead
if one say the Imperial Law and Regulations affects the tech itself. then it must stems from
- The Emperor ruled that only Adeptus Astartes can posesses Land Raiders (a consequence of several LR-dedicated FWs defect to Horus side, during the HH)
- Roboute Guilliman military reforms: the lessions Roboute Guilliman observed and learned from the HH led to the proposition of 'No commander is allowed to lead the whole legion of Astartes, Human ground-based armed forces, and Human interstellar fleets simultaneously (without the decision of the High Lords of Terra'), the proposition resulted in the two concepts
a. Codex Astartes. Spacemarine commanders of each formation can only have an army of 1,000 Astartes strong, the Codex Astartes itself led to the second foundings, nine (? let me count the number of original SM Legions first) legions splittd into a about 100 smaller formations, called 'Chapter' , the side effect is an outcry dissagreements by some loyal primarches, some loyal legions chose to defy the C.A. for some good reasons.
b. Imperial Army had its elements separated into Imperial Guard (representing ground forces) and Imperial Navy (representing Interstellar armada and air forces). boths have a completely separated chain of command heirachy. Under Roboute Guilliman reforms. AG vehicles (and skimmers) produced by Admech are now classified as aircraft, rather than being a 'car' . (i don't really know.. anyone?? (1) Can an IG formation has Valks as a part of its own armory? (2) if so. is it quota-based? (3) if not. how come can an IG formations field Valks? did a CC required to do some form of bureaucracy with the Navy in order to field one?)
2. Nah the 'Valks and Vulters being Skimmers' is really 'technical' term, Let me see the Apocalypse books first.



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The Valks are skimmers because it would be silly if they were given a full new ruleset to act exactly like skimmers, just be called something else

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.


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^ heh. i'm saying 'technical' term is the reference to the rule sets. meow



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Oh... Hawkward

 angel of ecstasy wrote:

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