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Johnny-Crass wrote:I just got that rising feeling....

Does anyone know if this applys to FLGS or just official stores

It doesn't have anything to do with GW stores at all. This is support for independent gaming stores that order product from GW. (FLGS)

*cue happy dance*

Prize support? Well it is time to throw comp out the door and get mean!!!!!

I was only going by what my FLGS tells me...

They say they get much greater support for warmachine, FoW and other games than they do GW... I do not own a store so I dont know...

Maybe the owner is FOS?

Or maybe they get greater support up in Canada?

I'd go with the first option, as Mikhaila knows what he's talking about.

H.B.M.C. wrote:This sounds great.

That said, given how prone GW is to changing horses mid-race, how long will this program last?

Does GW like turning down money? if it causes profit, they'll keep it.

Cool. This will be a good way for them to sell a lot more Grey Knights.

Mr Hyena wrote:*Waiting to see how long till a person inevitably bitches about this as well*

Its a good idea GW is implementing this.

Cue "inevitable person" now:

I may have to wait until USD figures are released, but on its face, this "new" program appears to offer similar support as the existing program, with less flexibility on how stores use their product support. It seems like they are encouraging FLGS to focus on demos rather than using larger in-store events as a method to promote the hobby. Our store focuses on in-store events much more than new customer demos, so this program may be a downgrade for us.

I'm not the type of person to look a gift horse in the mouth, but if I was asked to trade my gift horse for another, I might take a quick peek at the teeth.

I thought they already did all this. I wonder what kind of volume is needed before they give the $500. It would help my FLGS to get some much needed terrain.

It's about time that they made a generous gesture like this, respect has been earned this day!!

Kanluwen wrote:I'd go with the first option, as Mikhaila knows what he's talking about.

Or maybe they're both right because not every store is the same.

Just a thought...

Mr Hyena wrote:Does GW like turning down money?

You'd be surprised...

GW and free stuff in the same sentence?? How can this be! How can this be!

It can not be a coincidence that this happens in the year 2012!!

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:I'd go with the first option, as Mikhaila knows what he's talking about.

Or maybe they're both right because not every store is the same.

Just a thought...

That would be possible...if they weren't both under the auspices of GW North America.

My God, it almost seems as if GW is trying to make amends for their crappy public relations.
Could GW be having a change of heart?!

What's the difference between this and existing GW policy? In other words, what's the change?

The trophies will be molten down skull shaped Dreadfleets!

***heart attack***

And the prizes will consist of the Finecast items returned by customers around the world!

The trophies will be molten down skull shaped Dreadfleets!


That has to be the line of the week!

GG

Sweet

Just hope these prizes aren't largely remaindered copies of Dreadfleet.

As a manager of a FLGS I have to say I'm very suspect. Yes, free stuff is always good, but just exactly HOW free is it? If I am expected to stock LotR/Hobbit product I'll pass. I'd likely be required to keep two of each core item for that lousy line on hand (which does not sell in this region...see collection of WotR crap still on shelves from 5 years ago, regardless of specials and/or events) which will cost me well over $2000 at cost, which translates into a financial loss. And this doesn't count a rumored future outlay of significant cost for new paints/rack. Nothing free is ever free. If you're a player/customer and you think this is great, then be prepared to support your FLGS by purchasing sh!t you don't want so it can pay electricity for the next 5 months.

Kanluwen wrote:That would be possible...if they weren't both under the auspices of GW North America.

Given that the point of contention was what sort of discounts/support they got from PP, I don’t see how being under GWNA would make any difference Kan.

So shields down, ok?

commissarkurn wrote:As a manager of a FLGS I have to say I'm very suspect. Yes, free stuff is always good, but just exactly HOW free is it? If I am expected to stock LotR/Hobbit product I'll pass. I'd likely be required to keep two of each core item for that lousy line on hand (which does not sell in this region...see collection of WotR crap still on shelves from 5 years ago, regardless of specials and/or events) which will cost me well over $2000 at cost, which translates into a financial loss. And this doesn't count a rumored future outlay of significant cost for new paints/rack. Nothing free is ever free. If you're a player/customer and you think this is great, then be prepared to support your FLGS by purchasing sh!t you don't want so it can pay electricity for the next 5 months.

???? Sorry, I don't understand. Do you talk to your GW rep at all? For the US, this is nearly the same program as we've had in place. As it used to be: To get 600.00 a year in free items, you had to carry the better selling plastic models. If you already have LOTR items, then your fine, as they required very little of that line, and sounds like you have it. If you carry a full line of GW, you should be eligible for about 1800.00 a year. This doesn't include extra stuff they send for 'ardboyz, release parties, etc.

How Free is it?!: you decide what you want. Scenery kits, paints for painting classes, models for demo armies or to give as prizes. GW will make suggestions anyone really can't figure out how to ask for free stuff. Personally, I've never had a problem finding something I wanted for free. And no, no one from GW is going to check on how you use it. They just ship it to you and are done with it. I've known some stores to just keep it and sell it. (Stupid, IMHO, as you screw yourself by screwing your customers. )

They've been doing this for years in the US. Has your store been ignoring it? What store are you? If you pass can I have your stuff?!

See, this is smart.

Its essentially making lfgs as effective as a GW shop, especially when GW closed down their official ones.

All for a very cheap price to pay per store.

Bloodfever wrote:It's great news...if you have a FLGS near you :(

Yep, maybe they will invest in a store near me also!

Still, good on ya GW, should make a flgs a great place to be.

Milisim wrote:I was only going by what my FLGS tells me...

They say they get much greater support for warmachine, FoW and other games than they do GW... I do not own a store so I dont know...

Maybe the owner is FOS?

Or maybe they get greater support up in Canada?

Might be a situation where you store isn't taking advantage of the support GW offers, which in my mind doesn't make GW's support less, but he could freely state that he gets nothing from GW.

WOTC gives oodles of support in Myriad ways. Won't even try to go into it.

Privateer will send you some certificates to give out at a tournament for free. Coins you have to buy,same with league kits.

FOW will send out prizes for tournaments you register with them. If you don't order FOW direct, and just get the little bit at distributors, this won't be an option. They also supply free wire racking for their product.

Currently, GW gives 600.00 in models to stockists, 1800.00 to Partnership accounts. Plus extra for events they push like 'ardboyz. Extra again if the store/club is hosting a GT on the IGT circuit. Plus free racks, which could be hundreds or even thousands of dollars to a new store starting up. I expanded my shop and had a truckload of new racks arrive for it. We put in a 70' long wall of GW product, lots of racks needed. Partnership accounts also recieve a copy of new Codices or Army books. It all adds up to a lot of stuff in a years time.

If a store isn't ordering directly from GW, and just orders a few things from a distributor, they won't get this offered to them. They need to have a GW account. Not hard at all to set up. You also get free shipping on your orders from them.

Going forward, it looks like they rolled out that program to the rest of the world with some tweaks, and redid the US program.

Fralethepalewhale wrote:My God, it almost seems as if GW is trying to make amends for their crappy public relations.

Never lol!

I suspect this is probably part of a marketing strategy. The criteria to quality for the free stuff is probably high volume+sales. Given that GW probably makes the most revenue on retail sales (as well as the fact that the retail receives heavy competition from online discounters), increasing the focus on retail sales via “grass roots” type schemes is a sound strategy. I personally doubt it will be the winning strategy that GW is hoping for (as Timmy will always choose to save $10-20 and buy his spacemen online).

Don’t get me wrong, it’s awesome that GW is doing this but it’s not because it is from the goodness of their hearts.

candy.man wrote:

Fralethepalewhale wrote:My God, it almost seems as if GW is trying to make amends for their crappy public relations.

Never lol!

I suspect this is probably part of a marketing strategy. The criteria to quality for the free stuff is probably high volume+sales. Given that GW probably makes the most revenue on retail sales (as well as the fact that the retail receives heavy competition from online discounters), increasing the focus on retail sales via “grass roots” type schemes is a sound strategy. I personally doubt it will be the winning strategy that GW is hoping for (as Timmy will always choose to save $10-20 and buy his spacemen online).

Don’t get me wrong, it’s awesome that GW is doing this but it’s not because it is from the goodness of their hearts.

GW is re-balancing their sphere of influence in areas.
They were forced to close some stores, they make it back by supporting LFGS.
If some locations are lacking GW, they'll do the same.

They wont need to pay rent to lease a whole new building
or hire a whole new staff.

This is cheap, effective, and smart.

LunaHound wrote:GW

LunaHound wrote:cheap, effective, and smart.

Is this... possible?

ph34r wrote:

LunaHound wrote:GW

LunaHound wrote:cheap, effective, and smart.

Is this... possible?

Not cheap for US CuSTOMERs

cheap for them.