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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 05:43:17
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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daniel79 wrote:Skippy wrote:im just not sure why you would do it? a rhino seems an odd place for a 9/11 tribute?
its not a 9/11 tribute it is an assault on the Thousand sons tribute... Those evil space Puppies.
Well, it looks like you have a lot of explanations for all the many questions your scheme will raise. That's good practice, because you'll be explaining it a lot, every place you go, every place you play, essentially. So, if you want to be "9/11 rhino guy", it looks like you're set and need no help from us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 06:02:35
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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I could be fine with the sayings and maybe some other battle image, but the towers are just a clumsy and lazy idea, in addition to moderately offensive as already see.n. As said, if you have to ask, its probably not a good idea. There are better, and frankly more creative, routes to go. Why not a temple or structure that would convey 1000 Sons. LIke this.
The idea is to show how the feeling that drove the Thousand sons into the arms of Chaos was the same feeling that drove the USA into the middle east starting war on terror invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
No one will make that connection without you explaining that to them. Conveyance does not need explanation, otherwise it isn't conveyance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 07:05:45
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Mad4Minis wrote:I would also be weary of any veterans of recent desert wars being in/around the places you game. Ditto for anyone who had a relative in the towers...you might find yourself in some real life CC.
I wouldn't mind at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 17:53:08
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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DickBandit wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:I would also be weary of any veterans of recent desert wars being in/around the places you game. Ditto for anyone who had a relative in the towers...you might find yourself in some real life CC.
I wouldn't mind at all.
Well I was going to try do paint dark Gothic towers not the Twin towers... But if my paint job starts a CC, well then it does, I don't get to hit people on a regular basis, I try not to throw first punches, heck I let them throw a few before I start throwing, just to make sure they know what they are doing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 19:43:00
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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daniel79 wrote:DickBandit wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:I would also be weary of any veterans of recent desert wars being in/around the places you game. Ditto for anyone who had a relative in the towers...you might find yourself in some real life CC.
I wouldn't mind at all.
Well I was going to try do paint dark Gothic towers not the Twin towers... But if my paint job starts a CC, well then it does, I don't get to hit people on a regular basis, I try not to throw first punches, heck I let them throw a few before I start throwing, just to make sure they know what they are doing.
Further proof you're baiting.
Unless you live some place ultraliberal (like California) you'll probably end up getting your model smashed at some point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 22:17:48
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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I didn't want to say this but it looks I will have to.
This is as much good taste as me making a diorama of Death Korps Guardsman, all painted with swastikas, shooting innocent civilians, wearing skull caps, outside of what appears to be a synagauge.
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Thanrial wrote:Your not going to wake up, pick up the paper (or search the news) and see a headline:
"40K PLAYER SHOOTS 100 PEOPLE SHOUTING "DAKKA"" .
infinite_array wrote:junk wrote:infinite_array wrote:There's absolutely no way this thread won't descend into Monty Python jokes until being locked. Ni!
HELP! HELP! The OP is being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 22:44:04
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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So you ask peoples opinions, get a nearly unanimous reaction in the negative, and then reject all that helpful advice because you like the idea so much, and then go on to talk about how you can beat people up, YEAH INTERNET TOUGH GUY.
So you are either:
A) trolling
B) Not actually interested in anyone's opinion and just looking for some pats on the back for your 'oh so edgy' idea.
Your being juvenile.
Also, it is just a bad idea from a technical stand point. If your a crappy painter then it is far too complicated a scheme for you to pull off and it is going to look like poo.
If you are a good paint it is still a very complicated scheme that is going to take hundreds of hours to pull off for zero appreciation. Few people will be impressed, a fair amount will hate it, and the rest will just think your being juvinile. Why put forth the effort?
Not that I think you ever actually intended too. You behavior in this discussion indicates you were just interested in getting reactions, either pats on the back or anger.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 23:10:39
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Just to cast a good old British spanner in the works- Why on earth would you want to mix what the Thousand Sons went through with actual American (world) history of a horrific event? I mean, if you wanted to paint a ziggurat on a rhino then go for it but why the need to paint the vehicles in US Forces colours and put slogans associated with the above event?
Barking. Plain and simple.
(Oh yeh, being a Space Wolf player "YO ASS GOT SPANKED ON PROSPERO").
Toodle-pip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 01:48:05
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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If you have to ask yourself "Is it bad taste?" the answer tends to be yes. Don't do this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 01:57:15
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Yeah, bad call man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 02:17:04
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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I'm going to vote alongside the majority and say attention-whoring is a bad idea.
Many wargamers get attention by being a good painter.
Many wargamers get attention by being a good gamer.
Many wargamers even get attention be simply being a good sport and a likable guy.
Failing all that, you could always go the Carlos Mencia route of gaining attention by being tastelessly offensive for the sake of attention.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 02:20:12
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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A Thousand Sons land raider, painted normal TK colors, with some sort of depiction of the SW assault on prospero, with script saying "Never Forget" would probably be acceptable, though it sounds more like a Dark Angels type adornment. There is no legitimate reason for the chaos towers to mimic the twin towers, or to paint a chaos marine tank American colors, or use non-fitting language for the 40k setting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 02:23:33
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
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Ouze wrote:daniel79 wrote:Skippy wrote:im just not sure why you would do it? a rhino seems an odd place for a 9/11 tribute?
its not a 9/11 tribute it is an assault on the Thousand sons tribute... Those evil space Puppies. Well, it looks like you have a lot of explanations for all the many questions your scheme will raise. That's good practice, because you'll be explaining it a lot, every place you go, every place you play, essentially. So, if you want to be "9/11 rhino guy", it looks like you're set and need no help from us. Don't play in Houston with this. You might run into someone mean like me. Getting thrown out of clubs is a bad way to spend your valuable gaming time. Automatically Appended Next Post: daniel79 wrote:DickBandit wrote:Mad4Minis wrote:I would also be weary of any veterans of recent desert wars being in/around the places you game. Ditto for anyone who had a relative in the towers...you might find yourself in some real life CC.
I wouldn't mind at all. Well I was going to try do paint dark Gothic towers not the Twin towers... But if my paint job starts a CC, well then it does, I don't get to hit people on a regular basis, I try not to throw first punches, heck I let them throw a few before I start throwing, just to make sure they know what they are doing. What do you want to die? You're just doing this looking for a fight. Now days fights lead to gunfire. Don't be stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/27 15:07:42
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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well as an US army Vet, I am classified as a possible terrorist and security risk, and have the US government already keeping an eye on me just like all the rest of the American Vets. Automatically Appended Next Post: riplikash wrote:So you ask peoples opinions, get a nearly unanimous reaction in the negative, and then reject all that helpful advice because you like the idea so much, and then go on to talk about how you can beat people up, YEAH INTERNET TOUGH GUY.
who said I wasn't interested in other people's opinions? I was going to use Chaos style towers, and not skyscrapers to begin with. and so far there has been many differnt forms of advice and suggestions, you are just one of those who are offended.
So you are either:
A) trolling
B) Not actually interested in anyone's opinion and just looking for some pats on the back for your 'oh so edgy' idea.
i am just one of those rare vets that actually likes expressing my rights I signed up for the military to protect, right of free speech and expression.
Your being juvenile.
Also, it is just a bad idea from a technical stand point. If your a crappy painter then it is far too complicated a scheme for you to pull off and it is going to look like poo.
If you are a good paint it is still a very complicated scheme that is going to take hundreds of hours to pull off for zero appreciation. Few people will be impressed, a fair amount will hate it, and the rest will just think your being juvinile. Why put forth the effort?The goal of an artist is not for praise and appreciation from others, it is to push one's own limits and to know that you are improving and are pushing yourself in new directions.
Not that I think you ever actually intended too. You behavior in this discussion indicates you were just interested in getting reactions, either pats on the back or anger.
My main problem with most people who play 40k believe that the USSR was the right form of government, a Military Dictatorship with the illusion of socialist. Because that is the closest form of government to that the Imperium has. Of course my main grudge is those who right the 40K novels only have skimmed past fluff and just have thrown away all the fluff and background that came before them, and decided to rewrite the game's background story. of course in their defense the old fluff and history of 40K was spread through out many books and written one or two paragraphs at a time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/27 15:26:40
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Kanluwen wrote:As a simple rule of thumb, generally if you have to ask "Is this okay?"--it's best not to do it.
Well put pretty much thats the truth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/27 15:29:18
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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It looks like your going to go with your idea. Here's my couple of thoughts, although its looking like it won't matter.
Firstly, if you are trying to do something to be memorable and meaningful, your going about it the wrong way. I'd much rather see the army done up in NYC colors involving the fire dept and police dept. That would be meaningful if you are going that directions. US military colors with appropriate banners in tribute would look pretty sharp if you can paint it.
Secondly, doing it as a Thousand Son's memorial doesn't quite sit well. If done right / well, I get the symbolize from a fluff point of view, but you are then using 1 concept to project another. Starts getting a little murky there.
Lastly, you said your an Army Vet and considering the idea? AND your saying you are classified as a possible terrorist? I'm thinking your trolling. I have friends and family that were involved in clean up and helping in 911. I also have numerous friends and family involved with PD / FD and armed forces. If I played against your army I would 100% not be amused and I am a guy with a good sense of humor. Even done asthetically amazing, your poking on something which is a very very sore subject to begin with in the Tri State area, where I reside. I truly hope your not up this way, because you'd be walking around with poor sports scores and paint if you offend people.
USSR the right kind of govt?? I have never heard anyone who plays 40K make that statement. Don't know where your playing, I play in Philly, we like our USA very very much
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 16:41:35
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 16:51:30
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Weird mate..
I mean, Its not as bad as a bloke from Palestine or Pakistan doing it because your American. I mean, I'm sure nobody is going to jump to conclusions and think you support Al Queda.. but even so.
It sounds ridiculously tasteless and tacky In my view.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 18:46:26
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote:
Don't play in Houston with this. You might run into someone mean like me. Getting thrown out of clubs is a bad way to spend your valuable gaming time.
Will the wiener dogs be set on him?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 19:21:55
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This Image does have some potential for giving good insight into painting up a pair of chaos towers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 19:31:58
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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Sounds pretty weird to me, I'm not sure I get the point of it. That's speaking as a Brit who is rather distant to the 9/11 attacks. I imagine there are some americans who are very sensitive about it, being only 10 years ago.
I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, but I wouldn't want to play someone who had depictions of Bloody Sunday and stuff on their Warhammer models. It seems a bit creepy and possibly suspect. Placing dubious political connotations on your armies just means that people are more likely to avoid you than become obviously outraged.
It's not worth the hassle to play an uncomfortable game with someone who is a weirdo. Maybe you are a weirdo? I don't know. But if you just want to make it difficult to get a game, go ahead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 19:40:54
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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Ignoring the bad taste argument (as its been answered) I think you should consider...
-Dropping the military colour thing as it makes no sense in regards to the whole Space Wolves vs Thousand Sons which you appear to be wanting to do
- @Warpseer picture of the temples would fit much better than going the route you originally stated , and would define what it is your wanting to get across aka SW vs TS.
- Finally, as mentioned earlier you REALLY should think about whether you can paint well enough (you've no pics of painted mini's so that's your own reflection on your abilities) for people to clearly look and go "oh its a space wolves vs Thousand Sons battle" , I'd assume skills on par with the artists on CMON would be required to get this across in a way that doesn't look like a messy blob of building shapes and whatever else on a rhino/land raider.
So in short - I'd stick with the SW vs TS idea and skip the real life connotations.
T-M
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 21:21:43
Subject: Is it Bad taste?
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British?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntBg2qwk_M&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLBEC0629FBF9F32F0
Automatically Appended Next Post: TungstenMonkey wrote:Ignoring the bad taste argument (as its been answered) I think you should consider...
-Dropping the military colour thing as it makes no sense in regards to the whole Space Wolves vs Thousand Sons which you appear to be wanting to do
Well I don't want to current Thousand Sons paint job, and Don't know if the pre-harisy paint jobs for thousand sons were Red like their armor?
- @Warpseer picture of the temples would fit much better than going the route you originally stated , and would define what it is your wanting to get across aka SW vs TS.
- Finally, as mentioned earlier you REALLY should think about whether you can paint well enough (you've no pics of painted mini's so that's your own reflection on your abilities) for people to clearly look and go "oh its a space wolves vs Thousand Sons battle" , I'd assume skills on par with the artists on CMON would be required to get this across in a way that doesn't look like a messy blob of building shapes and whatever else on a rhino/land raider.
So in short - I'd stick with the SW vs TS idea and skip the real life connotations.
T-M
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 22:27:45
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this is related to your argument or anybodies argument on this thread.
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Thanrial wrote:Your not going to wake up, pick up the paper (or search the news) and see a headline:
"40K PLAYER SHOOTS 100 PEOPLE SHOUTING "DAKKA"" .
infinite_array wrote:junk wrote:infinite_array wrote:There's absolutely no way this thread won't descend into Monty Python jokes until being locked. Ni!
HELP! HELP! The OP is being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 22:49:19
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Vendetta 476 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this is related to your argument or anybodies argument on this thread.
your not the only one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 23:05:55
Subject: Re:Is it Bad taste?
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Skippy wrote:Vendetta 476 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this is related to your argument or anybodies argument on this thread.
your not the only one
well it comes off the idea it is a British gaming company, and many Brits actually believe that 9-11 was a CIA ran operation. Of course the idea that any American working for the government would of set such a harmonious action into play is unthinkable... But someone said something about Brits and it made me think about that crappy song.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Sounds pretty weird to me, I'm not sure I get the point of it. That's speaking as a Brit who is rather distant to the 9/11 attacks. I imagine there are some americans who are very sensitive about it, being only 10 years ago.
I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, but I wouldn't want to play someone who had depictions of Bloody Sunday and stuff on their Warhammer models. It seems a bit creepy and possibly suspect. Placing dubious political connotations on your armies just means that people are more likely to avoid you than become obviously outraged.
It's not worth the hassle to play an uncomfortable game with someone who is a weirdo. Maybe you are a weirdo? I don't know. But if you just want to make it difficult to get a game, go ahead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 23:09:46
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daniel79 wrote:
well it comes off the idea it is a British gaming company, and many Brits actually believe that 9-11 was a CIA ran operation.
Oh we do do we? Thanks for telling us! There was me thinking it was an american radio DJ that was one of the most vocal people over the nonsense conspiracy theory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 23:46:10
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Yeh, I mentioned "British" first, just for a bit of objectivity but I don't think it's managed to manifest itself properly! ( I say this because it was mainly yanks bashing yanks before).
Mind you, I suppose we could all fire up the Redcoats and get the Union Flag on the march to put those pesky Colonials under heel again, what-what!
Bugger, I dropped my monocle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 01:51:00
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If it's in parenthesis and bolded, that means I wrote it. If it's bolded, that means there's a grammatical or spelling error that really doesn't make sense.
daniel79 wrote:well as an US army Vet, I am classified as a possible terrorist and security risk, and have the US government already keeping an eye on me just like all the rest of the American Vets.
My main problem with most people who play 40k believe that the USSR was the right form of government, a Military Dictatorship with the illusion of socialist. (<--Also, should have a comma there instead) Because that is the closest form of government to that the Imperium has. Of course my main grudge is (that) those who right the 40K novels only have skimmed past fluff and just have thrown away all the fluff and background that came before them, and decided to rewrite the game's background story. of course in their defense the old fluff and history of 40K was spread through out many books and written one or two paragraphs at a time.
Well, my dad and my grandfather are both veterans, and I'm pretty sure that the government doesn't suspect them of being terrorists. Plus, it makes perfect sense that the government would classify the people in the middle east SHOOTING TERRORISTS as possible terrorists, right?
daniel79 wrote:Can't find any old images on-line of some of the OLD art work of some of the BIG city scapes of Chaos planets. I could of sworn I remember some REALLY ASSUME older posters from the early 90s that had exactly what I am looking for.
oh well have to just continue searching...
daniel79 wrote:
well it comes off the idea it is a British gaming company, and many Brits actually believe that 9-11 was a CIA ran operation. Of course the idea that any American working for the government would of set such a harmonious (Why is the word harmonious used?) action into play is unthinkable... But someone said something about Brits and it made me think about that crappy song.
Oh, so now we're being insensitive, factually inaccurate, AND we're racially stereotyping? Fun.
Edit: Also, I highly doubt you're an adult unless English is your second language, and even if it were no one who learned English as a second language would spell awesome as assume. Your grammar, spelling, and maturity level seems to be lacking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 06:16:03
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You posted an idea, received numerous responses, and seem more interested in arguing with the posters who don't agree with you.
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