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dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'm sorry what industry is the UK known for again?

Producing women with egregiously large breasts.

Edit: turns out its hard to find well sized, non-nude pictures of page 3 girls.

You say it like its a bad thing.

I left out "beer," as I thought that would be agreed to by all parties.


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Joey wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'm sorry what industry is the UK known for again?

Aeromotive engines, cars, defence, financial services, pharmaceuticals. There are others.

You make engines for what plane?
What cars?
Financial services (looks at the wreackage of the British financial industry) I think "used to" would be better here.
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

Frazzled wrote:You make engines for what plane?
What cars?
Financial services (looks at the wreackage of the British financial industry) I think "used to" would be better here.
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

I had the same reaction looking at that list. I was all 'Germany, Germany, NATO, UK, Germany'.

But the UK is a world leader in finance; right up there with Chicago, New York, and the big locations in Asia.

sourclams wrote:

Frazzled wrote:You make engines for what plane?
What cars?
Financial services (looks at the wreackage of the British financial industry) I think "used to" would be better here.
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

I had the same reaction looking at that list. I was all 'Germany, Germany, NATO, UK, Germany'.

But the UK is a world leader in finance; right up there with Chicago, New York, and the big locations in Asia.

You're right. they still are. thats why they freaked when the EU tried to put on a per transaction finance tax.

dogma wrote:

sourclams wrote:
But for anyone in the EU to say 'haha the US isn't a world leader!'; well, unless we're talking about creating insolvent bureaucracy, German dominion, or failed social experiments, I'm totally like 'LOL'.

Education.

Then there are those horrible failed social experiments in Scandinavia.

What failed social experiments would these be? You're seriously suggesting quality of life is higher in the USA than in Scandinavia?

Joey wrote:You're seriously suggesting quality of life is higher in the USA than in Scandinavia?

I honestly don't think he is, but I'm still all 'True Finns party /trollface'.


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Frazzled wrote:You're right. they still are. thats why they freaked when the EU tried to put on a per transaction finance tax.

And that was exactly the right thing to do, as to do otherwise basically ensures that London's 'lock' on the financial sector immediately picks up its heels and moves to Beijing, Singapore, or the US.

Joey wrote:
What failed social experiments would these be? You're seriously suggesting quality of life is higher in the USA than in Scandinavia?

I'm suggesting, or now stating, that several EU countries have superior education systems vis a vis the US, and that socialism panned out well for Scandinavia.

Of course, all countries are different, and what works for one may not work for another.

Joey wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'm sorry what industry is the UK known for again?

Aeromotive engines, cars, defence, financial services, pharmaceuticals. There are others.

He didn't say "In 1940"

Frazzled wrote:
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

Glaxo, AstraZeneca.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

Glaxo, AstraZeneca.

Who post smaller revenues than Johnson and Johnson combined. Pfizer almost takes them in a doubles match too.

Well you have to admit they have cool names.

ShumaGorath wrote:
Who are smaller than Johnson and Johnson combined. Pfizer almost takes them in a doubles match too.

No they don't. Glaxo alone posts ~45 billion USD revenue, J&J posts ~60 billion USD, and AstraZeneca posts ~30 billion USD.

And if we look at income, Glaxo reported more than Johnson and Johnson after currency conversion.

Frazzled wrote:

Joey wrote:

Frazzled wrote:I'm sorry what industry is the UK known for again?

Aeromotive engines, cars, defence, financial services, pharmaceuticals. There are others.

You make engines for what plane?
What cars?
Financial services (looks at the wreackage of the British financial industry) I think "used to" would be better here.
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

Planes? Rolls-Royce makes engines for the 787, C-130, A350, A380, Tornado, Typhoon, F-35, A330, and I could go on.
Cars? Aston Martin, McLaren, Land Rover, BWM minis, etc. They made 1,465,000 cars in 2011
Pharmaceuticals? GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, etc

The UK also has reasonably good research in medicine/medical sciences/engineering/etc.

dogma wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:
Who are smaller than Johnson and Johnson combined. Pfizer almost takes them in a doubles match too.

No they don't. Glaxo alone posts ~45 billion USD revenue, J&J posts ~60 billion USD, and AstraZeneca posts ~30 billion USD.

And if we look at income, Glaxo reported more than Johnson and Johnson after currency conversion.

:edit: No wait, I looked at the graph wrong, you're right. Carry on.

ShumaGorath wrote:
Not according to the graph I'm lookin' at.

Is it per quarter, or per anum?

Edit: Understood.

Planes? Rolls-Royce makes engines for the 787, C-130, A350, A380, Tornado, Typhoon, F-35, A330, and I could go on.
****Ok, hence the question.
Cars? Aston Martin, McLaren, Land Rover, BWM minis, etc. They made 1,465,000 cars in 2011
****BMW is German. Landrover is Indian. Aston martin and McLaren make about 7 cars a year.
Pharmaceuticals? GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, etc
****Got me on that one.

Frazzled wrote:
Cars? Aston Martin, McLaren, Land Rover, BWM minis, etc. They made 1,465,000 cars in 2011
****BMW is German. Landrover is Indian. Aston martin and McLaren make about 7 cars a year.

The parent companies are non-British. But, a large portion of the manufacturing happens in the UK. It's just like how Honda and Toyota each makes more passenger cars in the US than Ford does (and each one is not far behind GM).

You're right, the UK automotive industry is pretty small compared to the US. But, the US is pretty small compared to China.

Grakmar wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Cars? Aston Martin, McLaren, Land Rover, BWM minis, etc. They made 1,465,000 cars in 2011
****BMW is German. Landrover is Indian. Aston martin and McLaren make about 7 cars a year.

The parent companies are non-British. But, a large portion of the manufacturing happens in the UK. It's just like how Honda and Toyota each makes more passenger cars in the US than Ford does (and each one is not far behind GM).

You're right, the UK automotive industry is pretty small compared to the US. But, the US is pretty small compared to China.

Er...our automotive industry is larger than China, or are you referring to something else?


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OT but side question. Whenever I see the UK, for example the police and their cars, they are driving small two and four door cars. I've not seen them elsewhere. What are those?

Frazzled wrote:
Er...our automotive industry is larger than China, or are you referring to something else?

China made 18,264,667 motor vehicles in 2010. In the same year, the US made 7,761,443 motor vehicles.

China makes more than twice as many as we do. (And, they actually beat out the entire EU combined)

http://oica.net/wp-content/uploads/all-vehicles-2010.pdf

Frazzled wrote: Whenever I see the UK, for example the police and their cars, they are driving small two and four door cars. I've not seen them elsewhere. What are those?

British police cars vary a lot, so its hard to say.

But, if I can drive this...



...I'll police the British isles.

Frazzled wrote:
You make engines for what plane?
What cars?
Financial services (looks at the wreackage of the British financial industry) I think "used to" would be better here.
Pharmaceuticals? Really? Who?

Rolls Royce is the second largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world, they make aero engines for British Airways, Quantus, and many others.
Cars: Aston Martin, Bentley, Daimler, Jaguar, Lagonda, Land Rover, Lotus, McLaren, MG, Mini, Morgan and Rolls-Royce, as well asL Ford, Honda, Nissan, Toyota and Vauxhall Motors.
London is still the largest financial centre in the world, dealing with 34% of global currency exchanges. And neither of those will change in the near future.
Is it really such a surprise to you that there are other developed, wealthy, western nations?

Frazzled wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
OT but side question. Whenever I see the UK, for example the police and their cars, they are driving small two and four door cars. I've not seen them elsewhere. What are those?

They only look small because our police all have to be 7ft tall in order to be manly enough to police people without using guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_vehicles_in_the_United_Kingdom should probably get you some info on the cars we have. Most of the ones around here are ford focuses from what I vaguely recall.

Grakmar wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Er...our automotive industry is larger than China, or are you referring to something else?

China made 18,264,667 motor vehicles in 2010. In the same year, the US made 7,761,443 motor vehicles.

China makes more than twice as many as we do. (And, they actually beat out the entire EU combined)

http://oica.net/wp-content/uploads/all-vehicles-2010.pdf

Say you could pick any car produced in China or any car produced in any European nation...which would it be, really?
Japan and Korea are the only Eastern countries capable of manufacturing cars to Western standards.

Oh snap. I missed the national slap down fight again

Quick gotta think of something ummmm

The US invented internet!

/thread

But nah seriously. We're going to start a back and forth about what country does what well : / We all know the US is losing its lead. It's been losing it since the late 70's. We only got it in the first place because WWII pretty much blew every other country to bits and pieces. We were bound to fall back in line eventually.

Rolls Royce is the second largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world, they make aero engines for British Airways, Quantus, and many others.
*** They make engines, not planes. You're saying they make more stuff than Lockheed or Boeing? Whatever you're having I want some.

Cars: Aston Martin, Bentley, Daimler, Jaguar, Lagonda, Land Rover, Lotus, McLaren, MG, Mini, Morgan and Rolls-Royce, as well asL Ford, Honda, Nissan, Toyota and Vauxhall Motors.
****Again, knock out the foeign companies and you make three or four a year.

London is still the largest financial centre in the world, dealing with 34% of global currency exchanges. And neither of those will change in the near future.
***Thats foreign exchange. But I'll grant that the UK has a lrage financial services industry. Of course most of it is now owned by the government.

Is it really such a surprise to you that there are other developed, wealthy, western nations?
***Nope.


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LordofHats wrote:Oh snap. I missed the national slap down fight again

Quick gotta think of something ummmm

The US invented internet!

/thread

But nah seriously. We're going to start a back and forth about what country does what well : / We all know the US is losing its lead. It's been losing it since the late 70's. We only got it in the first place because WWII pretty much blew every other country to bits and pieces. We were bound to fall back in line eventually.

True dat.


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SilverMK2 wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
OT but side question. Whenever I see the UK, for example the police and their cars, they are driving small two and four door cars. I've not seen them elsewhere. What are those?

They only look small because our police all have to be 7ft tall in order to be manly enough to police people without using guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_vehicles_in_the_United_Kingdom should probably get you some info on the cars we have. Most of the ones around here are ford focuses from what I vaguely recall.

Thanks!

Frazzled wrote:***Thats foreign exchange. But I'll grant that the UK has a lrage financial services industry. Of course most of it is now owned by the government.

Now all we need to do is get the public to take back power from the gits in charge and we will really be cooking

SilverMK2 wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
OT but side question. Whenever I see the UK, for example the police and their cars, they are driving small two and four door cars. I've not seen them elsewhere. What are those?

They only look small because our police all have to be 7ft tall in order to be manly enough to police people without using guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_vehicles_in_the_United_Kingdom should probably get you some info on the cars we have. Most of the ones around here are ford focuses from what I vaguely recall.

Aye, depends on Police force, and the area they are used in, its mostly Vectra's around here, but Suffolk is a large rural place, so most Panda cars would Response cars by default. In cities I would expect to see a greater proportion of the smaller cars, alongside vans and other vehicles.

Rolls Royce is the second largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world, they make aero engines for British Airways, Quantus, and many others.

I'm pretty sure that's blatantly wrong. RollsRoyce is the second largest maker of aircraft engines, after general electric.

Is it really such a surprise to you that there are other developed, wealthy, western nations?

This dick waving contest is stupid, but if you're going to go nationalist crazy please try to get your facts straight.

Some of those Brit cop cars are interesting (ok the paint jobs make my eyes bleed but thats intentional I imagine).

Joey wrote:Say you could pick any car produced in China or any car produced in any European nation...which would it be, really?

Any car? I think that's a little biased towards Europe, where some of the finest luxury cars on the planet are manufactured.

Both GM (Buick) and Ford (Volvo) make cars in China. I suspect they can make cars to Western standards.