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eorltheyoung wrote:Where did all this 40k nonsense come from? I thought this was a historical thread?

Until a mod moved it to the "Painting and Modeling" section...

The mod should have paid closer attention to the threads topic, as it is specifically about FoW tanks, so the WH40K responses are irrelevant.

sorry missed it being fow

danli7 wrote:I've assembled most of tank army and painted some of them, but Im beginning to wonder how did you guys paint the tracks. I've painted mine with the track already glued to the tank, Im wondering does it make a big difference if I painted before gluing them on? I know I know upload pics. My cellphone is broken ATM, once its fixed I promise I'll upload pic of my 40 panzers.

General Seric wrote:

eorltheyoung wrote:Where did all this 40k nonsense come from? I thought this was a historical thread?

Until a mod moved it to the "Painting and Modeling" section...

The mod should have paid closer attention to the threads topic, as it is specifically about FoW tanks, so the WH40K responses are irrelevant.

Looking at the OP, it just says "tanks" in general and as far as I know, it doesn't matter where that tank belongs to, its always the same choice:
assemble the model and paint it or paint some of its parts on the sprue. 2 options, the first one is to forfeit to reach some places and thus keep it a simple job where you count on the models as unit and not for close inspection, thus a paintg job at the level of cheap toys.
The second one is to paint any parts, even those hidden after assembly, which provides a better impression and since you painted them on sprue, you could still build the tracks and "complete" the job with dirt / mud / etc at the assembled model.
Sure, 40k has got almost no details compared to military models, but FOW uses simplified tanks, doesn't it? So basically they are not as complicated and not as "historical exact" as highly detailed kits and IMO calling any response irrelevant when the question isn't specific enough is not a good idea. So where was this mention of FoW to be found in the OP, provided at the top?

1hadhq wrote: So where was this mention of FoW to be found in the OP, provided at the top?

It was not necessary, since the post initially was made in the FoW subforum and thus was meant to be dealt with from "historical" perspective. It all went a bit wrong, when the post moved to general PM forum.

1hadhq wrote:

danli7 wrote:I've assembled most of tank army and painted some of them, but Im beginning to wonder how did you guys paint the tracks. I've painted mine with the track already glued to the tank, Im wondering does it make a big difference if I painted before gluing them on? I know I know upload pics. My cellphone is broken ATM, once its fixed I promise I'll upload pic of my 40 panzers.

General Seric wrote:

eorltheyoung wrote:Where did all this 40k nonsense come from? I thought this was a historical thread?

Until a mod moved it to the "Painting and Modeling" section...

The mod should have paid closer attention to the threads topic, as it is specifically about FoW tanks, so the WH40K responses are irrelevant.

Looking at the OP, it just says "tanks" in general and as far as I know, it doesn't matter where that tank belongs to, its always the same choice:
assemble the model and paint it or paint some of its parts on the sprue. 2 options, the first one is to forfeit to reach some places and thus keep it a simple job where you count on the models as unit and not for close inspection, thus a paintg job at the level of cheap toys.
The second one is to paint any parts, even those hidden after assembly, which provides a better impression and since you painted them on sprue, you could still build the tracks and "complete" the job with dirt / mud / etc at the assembled model.

The OP first posted the question in the FoW section, not the painting and modeling section, meaning he wanted responses about FoW. Taken out of context, there is no mention of FoW but he would have posted it in the general painting and modeling if he wanted responses relating to other games than historicals.

Sure, 40k has got almost no details compared to military models, but FOW uses simplified tanks, doesn't it? So basically they are not as complicated and not as "historical exact" as highly detailed kits and IMO calling any response irrelevant when the question isn't specific enough is not a good idea. So where was this mention of FoW to be found in the OP, provided at the top?

I was not making any comment on the quality of the 40K tanks (I was saying the posts were irrelevant in the context of the original questions, not that WH40K was irrelevant ), it is just that the posters were not answering the posted question, as it was about painting the tracks of FoW tanks before or after assembling, and most of the posters answered with how to paint tracks on 40K tanks (some FoW players did this too, the title is misleading if you don't read the 1st post).

I've doen some Heavy Gear tanks and I find that black with a light dry brush of bolt gun metal or similar is the best I can do. I much more value time making the road wheels & suspension look distinct from the tread, etc.

CainTheHunter wrote:

1hadhq wrote: So where was this mention of FoW to be found in the OP, provided at the top?

It was not necessary, since the post initially was made in the FoW subforum and thus was meant to be dealt with from "historical" perspective. It all went a bit wrong, when the post moved to general PM forum.

If the post was moved, there would be a Mod and a reason and the option to contact a Mod to move it back.
Maybe it isn't a question that has to be answered from a FoW perspective? Because I can see a post like this may read like a general question and thus would belong into the general P&M forum. A "historical" perspective isn't really existant in asking " how did you guys paint your tracks" , isn't it?

General Seric wrote:
The OP first posted the question in the FoW section, not the painting and modeling section, meaning he wanted responses about FoW. Taken out of context, there is no mention of FoW but he would have posted it in the general painting and modeling if he wanted responses relating to other games than historicals.

Could you please elaborate what the model being a Fow model alters when the 2 answers are for every tracked vehicle the same?
Maybe he expected to know if it matters how much time he spends with models who come in units and the possible answer from someone building singular vehicles may not fit, but I still seem to miss the point why it has to be related to FoW.
Are FoW tanks so special, that they are absolutely different to paint ?
Because all I see is a general question when to paint the tracks of a tracked vehicle...

I'd suggest to be more specific in posts, it keeps Mods from moving things. OtoH there are still no pics, so maybe move it again?

1hadhq wrote:

General Seric wrote:
The OP first posted the question in the FoW section, not the painting and modeling section, meaning he wanted responses about FoW. Taken out of context, there is no mention of FoW but he would have posted it in the general painting and modeling if he wanted responses relating to other games than historicals.

Could you please elaborate what the model being a Fow model alters when the 2 answers are for every tracked vehicle the same?
Maybe he expected to know if it matters how much time he spends with models who come in units and the possible answer from someone building singular vehicles may not fit, but I still seem to miss the point why it has to be related to FoW.
Are FoW tanks so special, that they are absolutely different to paint ?
Because all I see is a general question when to paint the tracks of a tracked vehicle...

No they are not "special", they are a different type of kit:

1hadhq wrote:
assemble the model and paint it or paint some of its parts on the sprue. 2 options, the first one is to forfeit to reach some places and thus keep it a simple job where you count on the models as unit and not for close inspection, thus a paintg job at the level of cheap toys.
The second one is to paint any parts, even those hidden after assembly, which provides a better impression and since you painted them on sprue, you could still build the tracks and "complete" the job with dirt / mud / etc at the assembled model.

FoW tanks don't come on sprues (Resin body with single piece metal tracks, not multi-part plastic kits like 40K), and don't have separate track pieces to build like 40K that you could paint. There are no real separate "parts" to the tracks on a FoW tank and no track sections to build, just the solid medal chunk, and all you could paint that wouldn't show is the back of the track glued to the tank. This means a lot fewer areas go unpainted if you glue a FoW tanks tracks on before painting than if you fully glued together a 40K tanks track assembly before painting.

This means that the answers pertaining to 40K do not really help the OP in deciding whether or not to paint his tracks before gluing them on, as they are referring to an entirely different type of miniature tank kit.

Ahhhh... Sorry guys, I havent been paying much attention to the forum, so forgive me for providing information that mislead some of you. Yes I was refering to flames of war. Cause at the end of my post I mentioned about panzers. I did took the time to read all your replies and I found all of them helpful in their own way. Again I apologize to the 40k fans out there, as I think my misleading information almost resulted a forum war =(. Sorry to the mod as well, you guys were probably caught in the middle. Thanks.
Best of regards from Dan

orkboy232 wrote:I've had reasonable results painting them in in the FoW rusty brown color (can't remember what its called) drybrushing GW boltgun metal, then finishing with a brown/black wash. Doesn't take a lot of time and looks reasonable. Those are only for all metal tracks though. I'm still figuring out how to paint the tracks on my Shermans

Shemans is easy - if its the rubber track shoes the pads black to a weathered grey and the metal bits metal.

HI folks.
I usualy paint the tracks dark grey, then wash with rust-brown,Then use a SOFT (B3) pencil to rub across the metal areas to give them a metalic sheen.(Easier to control than a paint brush!)
If you want dry theatre/dessert tracks, simply paint with with pale brown/sand in recesses corners ,heavy dry brush with black/very dark grey to get heavier contrast.And use 'pencil highlighting' as before.

(If you want to you can use weathering powder for rust /earth/sand instead if you like.)

ok, going to surprise you on this one.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/333451-first%20sturmi%20plutooni.html?m=2

I paint mine with Boltgun-metal and then weather them with a mix of dark brown, terracotta, flock and white glue.
Don't mix it completely just so it sticks together and just apply

i give it a basecoat of tinbitz, then ill drybrush boltgun metal over the entire track, give it a heavy wash of a 3/3/3 mix of badab black, devlan mud and asurmen blue for an oily look. then i give it a final light drybrush of chainmail over the tracks where they hit the ground