[40K RPG] Combined news thread (UPDATE 30/01/16 Enemies Beyond is out!!!)

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**BrookM**

Just think of all that new equipment my inkie can use. Should I go with the Mars pattern or Ophelia pattern dataslate? Oooh, what kind of autoquill should I take?

**Manchu**

Sounds thrilling. Just thrilling.

**Kanluwen**

Just think, you can reenact Office Space: 40k when the data printers get a jam!

**Death By Monkeys**

"...but I kept my Swingline autoscribe because it didn't bind up as much, and I kept the quills for the Swingline autoscribe and it's not okay because if they take my autoscribe then I'll set the building on fire..."

**BrookM**

See? Awesome stuff right there. Beats the hell out of an Adeptus Mechanicus source book or one on crime in 40k.

**FreebootaXIII**

Snrub wrote:

Oh and also, did anyone notice the female guardswoman on the front cover? Sculpters can now stop arguing over bust size for the flak armour.

Thank you, that was the first thing i noticed lol, Would be cool if that was a foreshadowing of new models in the works.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Like I said in the other thread I'm only about 70% excited for Only War. I like the IG because they're closest to the real world, but I don't really need a $70 book to once again tell me what an RPG is and then explain how the GRIMDARK army works.

Now a Necromunda style game, where you're even lower tech and lower power than in DH, that I'd get in a second.

And an Adeptus Mech book, yes please! Hurry!

**BrookM**

A visit back to Necromunda would be great, I always did like the pseudo-western style that it carried hand in hand with their grim-dark version of cyberpunk.

**Alpharius**

Manchu wrote:I doubt it. I'd bet they'd have a conversion guide in PDF and keep plugging along on new stuff. They're bound to have learned enough at this point to merit a new edition of DH.

I hope when 2E for 40K RPGs arrives they figure out a way to make all of the various systems work together right 'out of the box'...

**Fezman**

Just this week I was talking with a friend (who ran a Deathwatch campaign) about setting up a role-playing campaign in which each player was a member of a Guard squad shot down in enemy territory. I was wondering which of the various FFG books we'd have to use. Now I click on News and Rumours and see this.

**H.B.M.C.**

I hope that whatever the Collector's Edition ends up being, it has some sort of certificate where you can have your own name placed in there (like all the others). I hope it also allows you to pick your rank, so I can have a special one for Commissar Mathias Calgar! That would be awesome.

**Kroothawk**

Tired of playing a Guardsmen, Psyker, Priest, Sniper and AdMech in Dark Heresy? Play a Guardsmen, Psyker, Priest, Sniper and AdMech in Only War!

Tried Rogue Trader because of the Xeno characters, but system suffers from the Star Trek paradoxon where only the staff (plus one nameless redshirt) is put into danger. group stopped playing.

Had a look at Deathwatch. Do I specialize in leadership (Ultramarine), drinking (Space Wolves), hate (Black Templar) or knowledge about Dark Angel renegades (Dark Angels)?

Gave up making a character, bored by the outlook of just bolting down masses of Tyranids (which reportedly poses no challenge at all to the group).

Not interested in Chaos.

So I keep on waiting for anything that might interest me.

**BrookM**

Seriously, you are not making yourself look good by boiling things down like that.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kroothawk wrote:Tired of playing a Guardsmen, Psyker, Priest, Sniper and AdMech in Dark Heresy? Play a Guardsmen, Psyker, Priest, Sniper and AdMech in Only War!

Wow... really? This is your criticism?

Dark Heresy: Guardsman, Cleric, Tech-Priest, Imperial Psyker.
Rogue Trader: Arch-Militant, Confessor, Explorator, Astropath.
Black Crusade: Renegade, Apostate, Heretek, Rogue Psyker.
Only War: Guardsman, Priest, Enginseer, Sanctioned Psyker.

By the Emperor - all these games are 100% the same in every single way and we never noticed!!!

Except they're not.

Kroothawk wrote:Tried Rogue Trader because of the Xeno characters, but system suffers from the Star Trek paradoxon where only the staff (plus one nameless redshirt) is put into danger. group stopped playing.

Then that's a problem with the way the group approached it. As I've said a zillion times, you get out of an RPG what you put into it. Sounds like no effort was made to differentiate it from "Star Trek", and thus all you got was Star Trek.

Besides, we saw your point of view in the OW thread. "I want a game with Xenos Careers that isn't the one that already has Xenos Careers" ie. I want to play as an alien but not the aliens I can already play for some unknown specific reason.

Kroothawk wrote:Had a look at Deathwatch. Do I specialize in leadership (Ultramarine), drinking (Space Wolves), hate (Black Templar) or knowledge about Dark Angel renegades (Dark Angels)? Gave up making a character, bored by the outlook of just bolting down masses of Tyranids (which reportedly poses no challenge at all to the group).

That's just mindblowing. And so off-base it's not even funny (other than the Tyranid thing, because Bolt weapons were broken in the original pre-errata rules).

Kroothawk wrote:Not interested in Chaos.

But let's blame FFG for that was well, 'cause why not, hey?

Kroothawk wrote:So I keep on waiting for anything that might interest me.

Why? It's clear you've made up your mind about every game in the range. Why bother looking for more?

**Charax**

H.B.M.C. wrote:I hope that whatever the Collector's Edition ends up being, it has some sort of certificate where you can have your own name placed in there (like all the others). I hope it also allows you to pick your rank, so I can have a special one for Commissar Mathias Calgar! That would be awesome.

Not all the others, the Dark Heresy CE had predetermined names on them, but all the FFG ones let you have your own, yes.

(Really wish I'd been around for the Rogue Trader and Deathwatch CEs, it'd have been nice to have the set)

**Kroothawk**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Besides, we saw your point of view in the OW thread. "I want a game with Xenos Careers that isn't the one that already has Xenos Careers" ie. I want to play as an alien but not the aliens I can already play for some unknown specific reason.

So you say, no problem to play an Ork/Kroot/DarkEldar campaign because there is one career path? Everyone in the group playing the same race and career, esp. when FFG career paths usually have at most one alternative branch if at all? When the rest of the setting gives you an Imperial ship with 50k humans on board hating Xenos? Then why not remake Dark Heresy with just one career path humans if that is enough?

We need a good core rulebook giving stats and careers of different classes of different races plus the relevant special abilities and background. "Only War" is just another Dark Heresy Source book like Blood of Martyrs, and less entertaining for me.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kroothawk wrote:So you say, no problem to play an Ork/Kroot/DarkEldar campaign because there is one career path?

No problem for me. I think it'd be great fun to use the Ork career to play an Ork crew aboard an Ork ship.

Kroothawk wrote:Everyone in the group playing the same race and career, esp. when FFG career paths usually have at most one alternative branch if at all?

Ye of little imagination. It's easy to make house rules.

Kroothawk wrote:When the rest of the setting gives you an Imperial ship with 50k humans on board hating Xenos? Then why not remake Dark Heresy with just one career path humans if that is enough?

Don't be absurd Kroot...

Kroothawk wrote:We need a good core rulebook giving stats and careers of different classes of different races plus the relevant special abilities and background. "Only War" is just another Dark Heresy Source book like Blood of Martyrs, and less entertaining for me.

No it's not. It's a new game. If it's just another source book, then so is Rogue Trader.

**Kroothawk**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Don't be absurd Kroot...

If you say that one career path per race is enough when making use of house rules and imagination, it is the logical consequence of your reasoning. If that consequence is absurd ...

**H.B.M.C.**

Don't twist my words. I'm not saying it's 'enough', but I'm certainly saying 'it'll do'. We all get it Kroot - you're a xenos-fan and find the Imperium and Chaos dull. Get over it.

**treadhead1944**

Kanluwen wrote:"Your Scribe is sent to the datastacks of Hive Primaris Alpha. You are to collate the TPS reports!"

"Files for the Emperor! Files for the Golden Throne!"

I read that, and blew coffee out of my nose. Too funny

**BrookM**

Kroothawk wrote:"Only War" is just another Dark Heresy Source book like Blood of Martyrs, and less entertaining for me.

What the..? And you call yourself a proper rumour monger?

**Fezman**

Is there any mention of how thick the book is? The Amazon preview page says 144 pages, which is quite a bit shorter than the other FFG rulebooks. Just wondering if that's official?

**the_dunner**

Fezman wrote:Is there any mention of how thick the book is? The Amazon preview page says 144 pages, which is quite a bit shorter than the other FFG rulebooks. Just wondering if that's official?

That may have been official for the original announcement, when Only War was intended to be a sourcebook for Dark Heresy (in 2010). To my knowledge, FFG has not announced a revised page count for the Only War RPG. However, I'm pretty confident that it will be comparable in size to the other Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay core books.

**Kroothawk**

BrookM wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:"Only War" is just another Dark Heresy Source book like Blood of Martyrs, and less entertaining for me.
What the..? And you call yourself a proper rumour monger?

1.) I don't call myself that. I let others decide.
2.) Even rumour mongers can have an opinion and sometimes express that opinion. With or without your written permission.

Oh, and:

the_dunner wrote:That may have been official for the original announcement, when Only War was intended to be a sourcebook for Dark Heresy (in 2010).

**Kid_Kyoto**

Gentleman, please don't fight, it takes all kinds in this world and think how bored we'd be if we all liked the same things.

Cheers.

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the_dunner wrote:
Fezman wrote:Is there any mention of how thick the book is? The Amazon preview page says 144 pages, which is quite a bit shorter than the other FFG rulebooks. Just wondering if that's official?

That may have been official for the original announcement, when Only War was intended to be a sourcebook for Dark Heresy (in 2010). To my knowledge, FFG has not announced a revised page count for the Only War RPG. However, I'm pretty confident that it will be comparable in size to the other Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay core books.

Yeah FFG obviously has not updated Amazon yet, but then again with 6 months or more to go they may not have an exact page count or price point at this stage.

**H.B.M.C.**

I said not to listen to Amazon. They told me the book was due out in 10 days when we were still writing it.

**Kid_Kyoto**

H.B.M.C. wrote:I said not to listen to Amazon. They told me the book was due out in 10 days when we were still writing it.

Yeah but Amazon has to get their info somewhere

**H.B.M.C.**

New Tome of Fate preview!

FFG wrote:Plots Within Plots
A preview of The Tome of Fate, the upcoming Black Crusade supplement

“The manipulations of Tzeentch are complex, eternal, and endless. Foil one scheme and two more come to fruition, like the severed heads of the fabled hydra. What might seem like failure is but one step on a long and winding path that only those who have been blessed with the insight and power of the Changer of Ways may follow."
–Attributed to Ankhu Anen, Guardian of the Great Library of Prospero

Last month, we announced the upcoming release of The Tome of Fate, a supplement for Black Crusade. The first of four books delving into the darkest secrets of the Ruinous Powers, The Tome of Fate presents invaluable information on the Lord of Lies. In its pages, players will learn of his dark servants, both daemonic and mortal, and how his influence is felt across the Screaming Vortex. With new weapons and psychic powers to aid them, Heretics can go forth across that unholy stretch of stars and beyond into the depths of the fallen Imperium, ready to challenge Fate and make it their own.

A Thousand and One Plots

The entity or sentient warp force known as Tzeentch is perhaps the most enigmatic of the so-called Chaos Gods or Dark Powers. Tzeentch, the Changer of Ways, is the god of sorcery, scheming, mutation, and change. He embodies mortals’ desires for evolution, improvement, innovation, and progress as well as their dreams of wealth, prosperity, and a better tomorrow. While many perceive these motivations as healthy, wholesome, and perhaps even necessary to mortal existence, Tzeentch, the Great Conspirator, works to corrupt the aspirations and ambitions of humankind and xenos alike, and to leverage these hopes and dreams for his own nefarious ends.

Today, we’re pleased to present a preview from the pages of The Tome of Fate. Those who futilely attempt to fathom the will of Tzeentch sometimes refer to his web of schemes as the Thousand and One Plots, but his lies are in reality far too numerous to count. Nevertheless, we welcome you to download this brief excerpt (pdf, 1.5 MB), that you might better divine his true will without losing your mind entirely.

Do you possess the force of will to stand among Tzeentch’s chosen? Keep checking back in the coming weeks for more previews of The Tome of Fate, and look for it on store shelves later this quarter!

The sooner the better...

**H.B.M.C.**

Free RPG Day update for Only War!

FFG wrote:Eleventh Hour
Be among the first to play Only War at Free RPG Day, June 16th, 2012

“I’ve seen some miserable balls of dirt in my time, but this place really is a boil on the arse of the Emperor-damned universe. I mean, an eleven hour day and a three hour night: hardly any time to get anything done at all."
–Sergeant Dryak, 14th Recon, Catachan 233rd

In fewer than eleven hours, the Imperium will commence its orbital bombardment of an Ork-infested death world. Unfortunately for you and the other members of the Catachan 233rd, that may not be enough time to reach the safety of a firebase. Can you traverse kilometres of dense, xenos-covered jungle in time to escape? And when faced with time-consuming questions of duty, honour, and compassion, will you remain true to your principles, or abandon them in a moment of self-serving desperation?

Fantasy Flight Games is pleased to once again participate in Free RPG Day, an annual event that encourages RPG enthusiasts to demo current and upcoming titles. Last week, we revealed Only War, an all-new standalone Warhammer 40,000 roleplaying game in which players take on the roles of soldiers in the Imperial Guard, the galaxy-spanning armies of the God-Emperor.

Now, you’re invited to take part in Eleventh Hour, an introductory adventure for Only War! When your superiors abandon you on the sweltering surface of a hostile world, will you have the strength to embody the ideals of the Imperial Guard?

Duty and Honour

Taking place June 16th at a retailer near you, this free introduction to Only War includes a full adventure, four pre-generated characters, and a set of basic rules to help players and Game Masters become familiar with the Only War roleplaying game. See if your local retailer is participating at the Free RPG Day Retailer Locator.

Do you live in the Roseville, Minnesota area? In honor of Free RPG Day, the Fantasy Flight Games Event Center will be giving away free copies of Eleventh Hour, and Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay developers Andrew Fischer, Max Brooke, Tim Huckelbery, and Mack Martin will be in attendance to answer questions and run introductory sessions. Sign up now at the Event Center to play Only War with a 40K RPG designer!

The bombardment will begin soon. Grab your gear and get moving, soldier!

**Kid_Kyoto**

Hey am I wrong or isn't the 11th hour the plot of a story from the old Deathwing short story collection?

It might even have had that title.

If so I am duely impressed, that story was quite cool. Though I think it was cultists not orks as the baddies.