Space wolf falls to chaos while in deathwatch, standard protocol is what?

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**gwarsh41**

If I remember right, when a Space Wolf becomes tainted with chaos, they lose control of themselves and become the Wulfen. The 13th company is so special because those SW have been exposed to way too much chaos and warp goodies, but are still maintaining their sanity and fighting for the allfather.

The mark of the Wulfen wargear in the codex is not because of chaos taint, but just a dude who is a little more savage than everyone else.

**Psienesis**

That's actually just a side-effect of the Canis Helix, the Mark of the Wulfen and turning into ravenous, feral beasts has nothing to do with Chaos, and everything to do with having the geneseed of Russ.

**Disciple of Fate**

NoGoodPainting wrote:
Here's how it is, to clear up some misconceptions about the Space Wolves.

1: The Rune Priests are psykers, but they do not consider themselves psykers. They do not believe the Warp is a big threat and as such it is not a big threat. It happens, albeit very rarely, that a Daemon tries to posses a Rune Priest but, besides being trained in controlling their minds like any librarian, being basically children protects them further from possession. It's like
Daemon: I'm going to take control of you!
Rune Priest: You can't, cause you don't exist!
Daemon: What? Yes I can, look!
Rune Priest: Why would I look for something that isn't going to happen?
Daemon: Dude, daf*ck? Why can't I posses you?!
Rune Priest: Cause you're not real, Chaosbutt!

(Yes, the Chaosbutt will always be mentioned.)

2: There is no use of any xeno tech amongst the Space Wolves. They have access to their own tech, in the form of their Frost Blades, and they can make a sort of mead from promethium, alcohol and molten troll-fat.
3: Lukas does not have any xeno weaponry. He has the pelt of a Doppelgangrel, which might count, but seriously.
4: The main reason why it is so hard to corrupt a Space Wolf is because they believe themselves incorruptible. There is nothing the Chaos Gods can truly offer them (Exception: Svane Vulfbad) because they are so unique in their views. Khorne cannot sway them, for they do not wish to fight to fight, they want to fight so they can sing stories about it and brag about it afterwards. Slaanesh cannot sway them, because they have no wish for feelings of ecstasy and pleasure, they wanna sing and feast and fight. Nurgle could possibly sway them through plagueing them and Tzeentch would barely be able to talk to a Space Wolf without them going bananas and trying to kill him, no matter how impossible it is.
5: Skyrar's Dark Wolves are not said to be Space Wolves, they are believed to be so but only because they have a common iconography. Which the Imperial Fist Successors the Shadow Wolves also had.

1. ''As such it is not a big threat'', this has already proven to be untrue. Just from a Thousand Sons it becomes clear it does not protect them more then it would otherwise. Enough Space Wolves start dying once they Sons start employing their psyker powers against the Wolves. Furthermore Ahriman crushed his opponent, a Space Wolf Rune Priest, even after he had trained with him with the slightest ease, even pulling him from his body into the warp. Saying such a thing would be beyond the power of a greater deamon is a bit silly. They might be less easily tempted (going to explain that part in 4) to get possesed, but it wont stop a sufficiently powerfull deamon.

4. The main reason why they might view themselves as incorruptible is because they have already been tested. New recruits are tested at the Gates of Morkai by the Rune Priest on the temptations of Chaos. Here they are offered what they crave (making it seem like the 4 Chaos Gods) and killed if they give in during the test. We have not much information on how or if other chapters already train their recruits against Chaos in such a manner.

Furthermore it seems that most First Founding Chapters dont have too much trouble with elements going rogue/renegade, not just the Space Wolves.

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gwarsh41 wrote:
If I remember right, when a Space Wolf becomes tainted with chaos, they lose control of themselves and become the Wulfen. The 13th company is so special because those SW have been exposed to way too much chaos and warp goodies, but are still maintaining their sanity and fighting for the allfather.

The mark of the Wulfen wargear in the codex is not because of chaos taint, but just a dude who is a little more savage than everyone else.

A few BL books seem to indicate that Wulfen are just savage animals but are controlled by the Space Wolves in a battle of wills of sorts. Wolf's Honour describes the wulfen of the 13th company as a sort of feral companions being led by their still marine brothers. Battle of the Fangs has indications towards the same idea, but formulates them less clearly/obviously than Wolf's Honour. So it seems that the 13th company's 'sane' survival is just based upon the individual brother's resistance to Chaos, more along the lines of the regular companies. The Wolves that turned into Wulfen just fight alongside the 'human' 13th company.

**AegisGrimm**

I haven't read later stuff on Space Wolves- have they lost their innate resistance to Chaos?

Back during the 13th Black Crusade campaign, I'm pretty sure it was mentioned, at least for the original 13th Company force in the campaign, that their Canis Helix made them resistant to the Chaos taint. It's why they were able to fight in the warp for so long (time being relative in the Warp, but they WERE still Horus Heresy-era Space Wolves after all).

**purplefood**

This thread is over a year old...

**edr247**

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:
General procedure for any rogue astartes is kill it with fire, as I recall.

That seems to be the Imperium's response to most threats.

**Tyr Grimtooth**

Basically the rune priest in question gets tiuched by Chaos, he gets fleshwrought via Prospero Burns and goes full blown Wulfen trying to kill anyone and ecerything, including the original sorceror.

**DarthMarko**

Guys you are forgeting Bran Redmaw, known as the Curs'd Lord, Wulfen-Kin and The Bloodied Hunter, who is borderline chaotic....

Corruption = beast mode, I' belive.....

**Bludbaff**

As mentioned above, it mostly comes down to the personality of the Watch Commander, but I would expect the Deathwatch to attempt to handle it themselves before turning it over to outsiders. An Imperial organization asking other organizations for assistance is admitting that they can't handle the problem, and the bureaucracy doesn't favor those who can't clean up messes in their own domains. The Space Wolves could be called in without losing face, but chances are they'll be engaged with some other threat and not be able to release much in the way of resources. I could see them sending a single squad in short order, but any larger deployment would probably not be able to come for a while. As for taking it to the Inquisition, a Marine fallen to Chaos is going to make it the business of the Ordo Hereticus, and the Deathwatch's patrons in the Ordo Xenos are going to look incompetent. The Watch Captain is probably too pragmatic not to call them if it becomes absolutely necessary, but any Xenos Inquisitors attached to the Watch station are going to be putting a lot of pressure on the Deathwatch to get it handled before the Witch Hunters get wind of it.

**scythewing**

Don't most wolves when they fall join the World Eaters? Well save the Rune Priests as they would be slaughtered.

**Waaghboss Grobnub**

It is the job of the Grey Knights, just like the Inquisition to distrust EVERYONE... But hey feth it,.. those dogs be loyal, dont care how they do it they kill the enemies of humanity so thats all i need to know... If a puppy actualy were to defect... its just one more that needs to die...