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kronk wrote:I prefer 4x Missile Launchers.

For fun, I once ran 4x Plasma Cannons. Completely destroyed a unit of terminators after I had popped their transport. Fun times!

We had a friend that did that in 3rd edition all the time. We all had different flavours of Marines, so it was pretty devastating (heh) when it connected.

Then in response to that, my brother made a green tide Ork army in secret, and plonked it down in front of the guy on the table, and laughed as they 'wiped out' a few Orks a turn.

GreyHamster wrote:Codex marines can't even do that and pay 20 more points for 4 MLs. Sternguard bring much more efficient heavy weapon access on infantry should you want it, and have better duality to boot. Avoid, avoid, avoid. Take Predators or Speeders, which in comparison are criminally undercosted.

I'm curious about this. From just looking at the numbers I'd give devs the edge.

Devastators: 150 pts gets you 5 guys, 4 missile launchers, and a signum.
Takes the slot reserved for vindicators, predators, or dreads in a Master of the Forge list.

Sternguard: 135 pts for 5 guys & 2 missile launchers, if you want to use the other 15 pts I assume they'd be spent on single fire combi-meltas or plasmas.
Takes the slot usually filled with terminators or rifleman dreads.

I've never actually played these units, though, so I assume I'm missing something. Can you elaborate?

i personally like 3 ML and 1 Las in BA codex as it can be pretty decent against all oponents and you can easily take on multi wounded creatuse of the nids such as warriors with no problem and also there horde. another one i like is all Heavy bolters just for the multitude of shots and with the sergeant in there thats 3 at BS 5 which is always fun, but this is when i run a tank BA wall and use them as covering fire for the transports and have 2 squads of them and its worked quite well at keeping nobs away from the vehicles before now

Yea, 4x4 shots on one squad is a lot, I might try that soon.