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2012/04/19 17:22:13
Subject: Re:That thread again: DE "Titanic Warmachines"
Dannyevilguy wrote:Not sure if you ever watched Robotech, but the large ship in that (SDF-1) had arms that would punch into ships and unload mechs as boarding parties.
Dark Eldar Titan might have a similar delivery system. Like a barbed grappling hook that doubled as a drop pod.
Along those lines with grappling hooks, the Forge World Chaos Blood Slaughterer Impaler cannon has interesting rules for pulling enemy models to it. DE Titan could have nets that pull entire units closer to it.
I was thinking of this too. Though perhaps it punches the air and shoots out Reavers.
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kitch102 wrote:I had wondered about this, as it'd ift the DE 'parasite' imagery of smaller beings feeding off of a larger one, though I can't seem to grasp how I can keep the ship looking as sleek as it needs to whilst adding these extra little bits.
The Starcom Shadowbat. Each of those triangles held one of these:
The Shadow parasite.
A super cool toy as a kid, the stuff of nightmares if harnessed for the Kabals...
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Therion wrote:
6th edition lands on June 23rd!
Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
2012/04/19 19:34:46
Subject: Re:That thread again: DE "Titanic Warmachines"
OK, this took a while, and I'm not including the 3 heavy skimmers or the Scourge Corriga, because frankly I'm not happy with them atm.
DISCLAIMER: These have been primarily been balanced in points against Imperial Titans / Baneblades / Eldar Titans etc, rather than existing 'nid Gargantuans. The bias towards armour is insane (coincdently, DEMC's cost 60% of the equivalent nid ones, and curiously enough, these cost 60% of the equivalent nid titan with those stats.) but at any rate, the Magnatesque invaribly gets put on the field in 1500-2000pt standard 40k game and still get raped and do little. Which is why it now has a 3+ / 6+* instead of just a 6+* and costs 220 instead of 250. Dark Eldar Felis Panthera Flesh Hound Biotitan
Wargear:
Hardened Gnarlskin
Teeth and Claws
Gravis Liquifier Gun
Special Rules:
- Fearless
- Terrifying
Night Vision
Power from Pain
Altered Physique
Regeneration
Options:
None.
Hardened Gnarlskin:
Hardened Gnarlskin is layer upon layer of thick heavily scarred flesh, toughened through endless days and nights of torture.
It confers a 3+ Armour Save and a 6+ Invulnerable save.
Regeneration:
At the start of each of your turns roll a D6 for each wound the model has lost.
For Each 6 that model regains 1 wound.
(This one is represented by the tiger, it's a Titan Hunter and Horde killer, roughly 12" long (19" with the tail) and 7-8" tall, meant to be a 'Warhound' equivalent.)
Dark Eldar Magnatesque Biotitan
Spoiler:
FO: Heavy Support
Squad: Magnatesque
Unit: Magnatesque
Points Per: 220
Models: 1
Unit Type: Gargantuan Creature
WS-4, BS-1, S-8, T-8, W-6, I-4, A-3(4), Ld-3, Sv-3+(6+*).
Wargear:
Hardened Gnarlskin
2 Close Combat Weapons
2 Twin-Linked Heavy Liquifier Gun
Special Rules:
- Fearless
- Terrifying
Night Vision
Power from Pain
Altered Physique
Slow
Regeneration
Options:
None.
Hardened Gnarlskin:
Hardened Gnarlskin is layer upon layer of thick heavily scarred flesh, toughened through endless days and nights of torture.
It confers a 3+ Armour Save and a 6+ Invulnerable save.
Weapon: Heavy Liquifier Gun
Range-Template, Str-5, AP-D6, Type-Assault 1.
Slow:
The Magnatesque is a massive hulk of disjointed, tortured minds and flesh, lumbering across the battlefield towards the enemy.
It can only move 6" each movement phase.
Regeneration:
At the start of each of your turns roll a D6 for each wound the model has lost.
For Each 6 that model regains 1 wound.
(This one is represented by the blue thing, it's meant to be a Tank / Dread Hunter and Horde killer, roughly 6-7" mark on a 5" base (I used a spare Large Blast template))
Dark Eldar Magnoster of Damnation, Pain Chamber Biotitan
Spoiler:
FO: Heavy Support
Squad: Magnoster of Damnation, Pain Chamber
Unit: Magnoster
Points Per: 450
Models: 1
Unit Type: Gargantuan Creature
WS-5, BS-3, S-9, T-9, W-6, I-4, A-2D6+1, Ld-10, Sv-3+.
Wargear:
Armoured Carapace
Two Close Combat Weapons
Five Twin-linked Splinter Cannon
Two Twin-linked Heavy Liquifier Gun
Special Rules:
- Fearless
- Terrifying
Transport Capacity: 24
Access Points: 2
- Rear Left, Rear Right
Fire Points: 12
- 6 Left Side, 6 Right Side
Pain Chambers
Night Vision
Power from Pain
Move Through Cover
Random Attacks
Options:
Replace any twin-linked Splinter Cannon with:
Twin-Linked Stinger Pod + 10
Twin-Linked Haywire Blaster + 10
Twin-Linked Heat Lance + 18
Twin-Linked Dark Lance + 30
Twin-Linked Disintegrator Cannon + 30
Take any of the following:
Night Shields + 10
Flickerfield + 20
Long-Barreled Void Lance + 30
Hardened Gnarlskin:
Hardened Gnarlskin is layer upon layer of thick heavily scarred flesh, toughened through endless days and nights of torture.
It confers a 3+ Armour Save and a 6+ Invulnerable save.
Weapon: Heavy Liquifier Gun
Range-Template, Str-5, AP-D6, Type-Assault 1.
Pain Chamber:
All Dark Eldar units within 12” of this unit gains the Regeneration rule.
- Regeneration:
At the start of each of your turns roll a D6 for each wound the model has lost.
For Each 6 that model regains 1 wound.
(Don't know how big this will but probably Baneblade footprinty.)
Dark Eldar Arrak'i Decimator Biotitan
Spoiler:
FO: Heavy Support
Squad: Arrak'i Decimator
Unit: Decimator
Points Per: 550
Models: 1
Unit Type: Gargantuan Creature
WS-4, BS-4, S-10, T-10, W-6, I-4, A-8, Ld-10, Sv-3+(6+*).
Wargear:
Hardened Gnarlskin
Four Close Combat Weapons
Two Splinterstorm Cannons
Heavy Liquifier Gun
Special Rules:
- Fearless
- Terrifying
Night Vision
Power from Pain
Altered Physique
Regeneration
Options:
Replace any Close Combat Weapon with:
Haywire Blaster + 5
Heat Lance + 5
Liquifier Gun + 5
Splinter Cannon + 5
Stinger Pod + 5
Venom Blade + 10
Dark Lance + 10
Disintegrator Cannon + 10
Hex Repeater + 10
Titan Close Combat Weapon + 50
Replace any Splinterstorm Cannons with:
Two Twin-Linked Stinger Pods + 0
Two Twin-Linked Haywire Blasters + 0
Two Twin-Linked Heat Lances + 0
Twin-Linked Dark Lance + 10
Twin-Linked Disintegrator Cannon + 10
Long-Barreled Void Lance + 15
Replace Heavy Liquifier Gun with:
Twin-Linked Heavy Liquifier Gun + 10
Gravis Liquifier Gun + 40
Take any of the following:
Night Shields + 10
Flickerfield + 10
Hardened Gnarlskin:
Hardened Gnarlskin is layer upon layer of thick heavily scarred flesh, toughened through endless days and nights of torture.
It confers a 3+ Armour Save and a 6+ Invulnerable save.
Weapon: Hex Repeater
Range- 36", Str-X, AP-4, Type- Assault 3 / Heavy 4, Sniper - Rending, Pinning.
Special Rules: A model that suffers an unsaved wound from a Hex Repeater must take a characteristic test based on their Wounds value. If they fail the test they are removed from play, with no saves of any kind.
Regeneration:
At the start of each of your turns roll a D6 for each wound the model has lost.
For Each 6 that model regains 1 wound.
(This will use the giant spider. It's meant to be 10-12" tall, and I just won one on ebay, so we'll see exactly how big it is when it arrives. Meant to be a build-your own type of thing, can gear it to be an everything type thing, a titan hunter, a tank hunter or an infantry killer.)
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Am I right in thinking the left side is the front and the right is the tail? I've got my sketch attempts done, will upload them, along with relevant source info for dakkanauts, shortly
Automatically Appended Next Post: (can't open that file :()
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1: Why is the first image of the Reaper?Oh, you fixed it. 2: I.. can't really see what you're going for. 3: I attempted opening Ship.dwg in both eDrawings (.dwg viewer) and Solidworks and it appears to just be a blank square...
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Ok here are my sketches - hopefully you can get an idea of what I'm looking at from these.
Mods, I realise these pictures are only indirectly wargames related, hopefully you're alright with them being uploaded here for the sake of this project - I did consider not putting them here, feel free to take them down if you think it best
Automatically Appended Next Post: Fixed sketches - turned 'em the right way round!
Automatically Appended Next Post: I can't draw the wing shape out correctly - the 2 blades at the very front of the punch blade are to be at the front of the hull, one on each side. The rear blades are to be extended out further and joined at the tip, like the Romulan warbird.
Looks great from the top down, though the wings need to curve over the top and under the bottom of the hull, and the hull needs to be slimmer (from the front view) - but yeah looks like we're on the right lines there pal!
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
I just had a brilliant idea for your capture cages/snares.
Add the following weapon to the bottom of the vehicle.
Slavecatcher Snare array.
Range 12": Str* Ap* Assault 12, Slavecatcher
Slave Catcher: Each Infantry, Jump Infantry, Bike, Jetbike, Warbeast, and Cavelry model hit by a Slavecatcher Snare must take a Strength test. If the test is failed the model is removed from play as a casuality with no saves allowed. If the test is passed the model has managed to break free of the snare and suffers no ill effects. Monstrous creatures, Gargantuan Creatures, and vehicles are immune to the Slave Catcher.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
it depends on your area.
Most people would have no problem if they got a look at the rules for it before hand.
Its better err on the side of overpricing your creations too, and ensure that everyone has big appoc sized guns to take stuff down with.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
So i read as far as Space travel capable, slave ship, not spikey, and skimmer and BOOM! Slave row boat (viking?) popped into my head. Tried googling a good picture but couldnt, but i could imagine DE wielding whips all over the ship forcing the slaves to do their bidding, stuffing breaches with slave bodies etc!
2012/04/20 21:55:57
Subject: Re:That thread again: DE "Titanic Warmachines"
OK, so this thread also prompted me to put down concept art and do up rules for an idea I'd been tossing around in my head for a while.
The Shrike Assault Carrier:
Dark Eldar Shrike Assault Carrier
Spoiler:
FO: Heavy Support
Squad: Shrike Assault Carrier
Unit: Shrike
Points Per: 640
Models: 1
Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast, Flyer*)
*Only in Apocalypse Games
WS-4, FA-12, SA-12, RA-11.
Wargear:
Eight Void Lances
Two Void Lance Turrets with AA Mounts
Four Splinterstorm Cannons
Four Missile Tubes
Two Drop Bays
Special Rules:
Structure Points: 3
Night Vision
Deep Strike
Aerial Assault
Supersonic
Sky Assasin
Options:
Must load each Missile Tube with any of the following:
Three Monoscythe Missiles + 15 per
Three Necrotoxin Missiles + 15 per
Three Shatterfield Missiles + 15 per
Three Implosion Missiles + 45 per
Take any of the following:
Night Shields + 10
Flickerfield + 10
Missile Tube:
Each Missile Tube is loaded with a magazine of missiles, allowing repeated firing of ordnance.
Missile tubes may fire one missile a turn.
Drop Bays:
Certain larger Dark Eldar Ships carry transports, allowing them to deliver raiding parties to enemy ships and positions.
Each Drop Bay may carry up to 1 Raider or up to 2 Venom.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Anton, can you include the hull in the next sketch? Any chance of a 3d rendering soon? (sorry if I'm jumping the gun - I have no idea how long this stuff takes!)
Automatically Appended Next Post: I can't decide which way round the hull should go - blade tip down, or blade tip up (with the hull being angled down).
What do you guys think?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Anton - (sorry buddy...!) Can you add a second set of blade wings to the rear of your latest drawing? There are 2 flat edges at the 4 o' clock and 7 o' clock position - can we add them here? Have them sweeping outwards and pointing back towards the front, these are the bits that will join at the tip and circle the hull
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kitch102 wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Anton, can you include the hull in the next sketch? Any chance of a 3d rendering soon? (sorry if I'm jumping the gun - I have no idea how long this stuff takes!)
well as soon as we settle on a 2d design I can do a 3d rendering of it.... maybe monday-tuesday, considering I have school...
kitch102 wrote:Spot on profile, I'd been wondering what would fit
How 'free' are other gamers with playing against a custom unit with its own rules and weapon profiles?
As far as December goes you'd be best to post a few quieries on the Animosity thread to sound out your potential opponents and find something with a similar profile to use as fall back rules if anybody gets shirty.
Definitely he cut out red bits on the 3rd picture (bat plane?!), they're awesome
Automatically Appended Next Post: I've put the feelers out to companies that can help me to make the master casts; a couple of companies in China, and Chapter House Studios too.
Nick from Chapter House is happy to look further in this with me, though won't commit to casting the finished piece until he's seen the designs.
Yet to hear from the Chinese companies
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