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2012/04/22 22:47:23
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Tzeentch would probably be the best, since he'd have engineered the outcome even if he lost, and in such a way that he got whatever it was he wanted from the game anyway.
Da dakka boy wrote:Eldrad for certain! he can see the outcomes of every possible move!
He didn't see the outcome of going into that Blackstone fortress though...
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2012/04/22 23:59:46
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Madrid
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Omegus wrote:
He's referencing Outcast Dead.
Two points:
1. WHY DO I KEEP OPENING SPOILERS!!!!!!!!! Now you made me buy the book!!!
2. That totally made me see the emperor in a different way, note the that I always thought that he wasn't very smart, some of the decisions he makes make you go WTF, but now he definitely is a bastard.
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command, yet you still dare to oppose our will."
Never Forgive, Never Forget
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2012/04/23 00:01:27
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Greater Blue, a Chess playing drone developed in the Tau Empire.
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2012/04/23 14:47:56
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Omegus wrote:jgehunter wrote:Bobakos wrote:I'd say the big E. After all sometimes when you are about to lose the best outcome is a tie 
In all honesty,,,,,
I doubt it, after all, he wouldn't see the checkmate coming until it was too late.
He's referencing Outcast Dead.
For all we know the Man has some greater plan in mind.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/23 14:49:36
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Magnus or Creed
Mad doc Grotsnik
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2012/04/23 14:52:57
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Durza wrote:Tzeentch would probably be the best, since he'd have engineered the outcome even if he lost, and in such a way that he got whatever it was he wanted from the game anyway.
Da dakka boy wrote:Eldrad for certain! he can see the outcomes of every possible move!
He didn't see the outcome of going into that Blackstone fortress though...
Typical Eldar arrogance, I say.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/23 14:56:36
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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Malcador the Sigillite.
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Eventus facti excusat - The outcome justifies the deed
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2012/04/25 19:13:10
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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The deceiver the un nerfed version
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2012/04/26 13:23:41
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Tzeentch. Only he can win and lose at the same time. Don't worry, if you don't understand, then you understand.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/26 13:28:08
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Khorne. You know, the guy with the whole god of war thing going on. Would be Khaine, though, if he weren't a little broken. 
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2012/04/26 13:35:14
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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TermiesInARaider wrote:Khorne. You know, the guy with the whole god of war thing going on. Would be Khaine, though, if he weren't a little broken.
Khorne would kick Khaine's any time. Khaine couldn't even beat Slaanesh, while Khorne humiliates and uses Slaanesh as a punching bag on a regular basis. The three elder Powers treat Slaanesh as an outsider most of the time (considering the three were originally formed from Mankind's darkness this isn't really surprising as Slaanesh is an Eldar deity), and treat him/her/it accordingly.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/26 13:37:39
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Tadashi wrote:TermiesInARaider wrote:Khorne. You know, the guy with the whole god of war thing going on. Would be Khaine, though, if he weren't a little broken.
Khorne would kick Khaine's any time. Khaine couldn't even beat Slaanesh, while Khorne humiliates and uses Slaanesh as a punching bag on a regular basis. The three elder Powers treat Slaanesh as an outsider most of the time (considering the three were originally formed from Mankind's darkness this isn't really surprising as Slaanesh is an Eldar deity), and treat him/her/it accordingly.
In open battle, definitely. But maybe not at chess? I dunno, I always saw Khorne as more of a slaughter-beast character, where Khaine relied much more on strategy.
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2012/04/26 13:44:52
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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TermiesInARaider wrote:Tadashi wrote:TermiesInARaider wrote:Khorne. You know, the guy with the whole god of war thing going on. Would be Khaine, though, if he weren't a little broken.
Khorne would kick Khaine's any time. Khaine couldn't even beat Slaanesh, while Khorne humiliates and uses Slaanesh as a punching bag on a regular basis. The three elder Powers treat Slaanesh as an outsider most of the time (considering the three were originally formed from Mankind's darkness this isn't really surprising as Slaanesh is an Eldar deity), and treat him/her/it accordingly.
In open battle, definitely. But maybe not at chess? I dunno, I always saw Khorne as more of a slaughter-beast character, where Khaine relied much more on strategy.
Good point. But I do think Khorne would appreciate a good strategy/tactic, especially if it ended in a bloodbath. Although, the longest chess game would probably between Tzeentch and Cegorach, or one or the other against either the Emperor or the Deceiver (Mephet'ran?).
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/27 10:47:29
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game  but come on, wont it be awesome?
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2012/04/27 10:59:06
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Yori wrote:So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game but come on, wont it be awesome?
Impressive idea...consider yourself exalted. 
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/27 12:56:30
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Wicked Warp Spider
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The problem with Tzeench in chess is that you never know if he's even playing to win!
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2012/04/27 13:04:28
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Mahtamori wrote:The problem with Tzeench in chess is that you never know if he's even playing to win!
Actually, it's both. He plays to win and lose at the same time. Or if you think he's playing to win, he's actually playing to lose, and vice-versa, and so on, and so on...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/27 19:11:29
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Fixture of Dakka
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There's a mistaken impression going around that Tzeentch is some kind of master strategist with plans within plans.
This is patently untrue. In fact, it is so outside what powers him that he can't even understand it. Tzeetch only wants change. He has no grand plan. A plan implies an end. An end will end Tzeentch; he doesn't exist without change.
Tzeentch's only "plan" is to keep throwing gak on the fire and seeing what happens.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2012/04/27 19:13:40
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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The Conquerer
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Tzeentch's plan is that he keeps changing it.
For him, the means are an end.
He does have a plan(why do you think there are tons of references to the Grand Scheme?) but its a never ending self-perptuating plan.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2012/04/29 02:38:49
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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The emperor he would unite all the pieces under his rule
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2012/04/29 02:43:26
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Calm Celestian
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KplKeegan wrote:That creepy little girl and her dog that solved Tzeentch's Labrynth in the Daemons Codex. I bet you 10$ she would put Eldrad to shame.
Her dog could take her on, as he/she also has infinity knowledge to.
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2012/04/29 02:48:55
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Yori wrote:So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game but come on, wont it be awesome?
The Emperor/Horus for the kings, Malcador(or Sanguinius)/Lorgar for Queens, SM/ CSM for Knights, Bishops as Inquisitors/Demons, Rooks as Hive Cities/Chaos Altars(?), pawns as guardsmen/cultists.
I want.
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 warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
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2012/04/29 05:06:07
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Crazyterran wrote:Yori wrote:So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game but come on, wont it be awesome?
The Emperor/Horus for the kings, Malcador(or Sanguinius)/Lorgar for Queens, SM/ CSM for Knights, Bishops as Inquisitors/Demons, Rooks as Hive Cities/Chaos Altars(?), pawns as guardsmen/cultists.
I want.
We all must realize that we can, ultimately, make this out of actual 40k minis, right?
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2012/04/29 05:21:19
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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TermiesInARaider wrote:Crazyterran wrote:Yori wrote:So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game but come on, wont it be awesome?
The Emperor/Horus for the kings, Malcador(or Sanguinius)/Lorgar for Queens, SM/ CSM for Knights, Bishops as Inquisitors/Demons, Rooks as Hive Cities/Chaos Altars(?), pawns as guardsmen/cultists.
I want.
We all must realize that we can, ultimately, make this out of actual 40k minis, right?
Yeah but it won't be as cool, besides i have not seen minis made of glass, marble or wood, and chess pieces made of plastic aren't worthy of being a part the 40k chess set.
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2012/04/29 05:21:22
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Calm Celestian
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Crazyterran wrote:Yori wrote:So am I the only one that now wants a chess board with 40k miniatures or perhaps figures made exactly for it something like the Emperor for a king, guardsmen for pawns (poor guardsmen, much respect to these guys) and so on? I know its redundant having the table top game but come on, wont it be awesome?
The Emperor/Horus for the kings, Malcador(or Sanguinius)/Lorgar for Queens, SM/ CSM for Knights, Bishops as Inquisitors/Demons, Rooks as Hive Cities/Chaos Altars(?), pawns as guardsmen/cultists.
I want.
Saint Celestine and Miriael Sabathiel (My avatar) should be the queen.
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2012/04/29 05:31:47
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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Yori wrote:
Yeah but it won't be as cool, besides i have not seen minis made of glass, marble or wood, and chess pieces made of plastic aren't worthy of being a part the 40k chess set.
Weigh them down with a nice resin base —potentially magnetize the board?— and you'll be golden. This would certainly make an amazing gift if you took the time to make it well. Or fetch you a helluva price on ebay!
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2012/04/29 20:16:21
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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I think Dante should get some recognition here. When two space marine chapter masters (space marines are not known for their humility) turn overall command of a theater of operations to you, you must be pretty savvy. Also, didn't Dante go toe to toe with a necron lord and fight him to a draw until some tyrinids showed up?
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
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2012/04/30 01:37:52
Subject: Re:Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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It's a tradition of Space Marines when marines from different chapters and the same rank are together, whomever has been that rank longer is higher in command.
Dante is the oldest living Chapter Master.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
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2012/04/30 01:43:17
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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The way it's spun in Codex: Blood Angels is that the smurph and salamander chapter masters give Dante command out of regard for his tactical genius. Obviously each codex spotlights it's own faction.
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It does make sense, however, that an older commander would be more tactically experienced.
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The Emperor Protects
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
Slaanesh who <censored by order of the Inquisition>, until you finally
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2012/05/02 00:11:21
Subject: Best Chess Player in the 40K universe.
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I would have to say Indrick Boreale.
He would just steal the opponent's pieces, and give a rousing speech beforehand.
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