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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 16:05:32
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Raven Guard.
In the novel Hunt for Voldorius, the White Scars notice that the RG's power armor servos are totally silent compared to theirs.
Their power armors are tweaked for total silent running.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 16:40:19
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Opportunist
Spokane Washington
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The Raven Gurad by far they are a founding chapter that remained loyal and during the Targus Campaign Kayvaan Shrike and his command squad killed over 500 orks without being seen ... and Shrike is not the stealthiest of the Raven Guard ... if you dont believe me then read the book or look it up in the lexicanum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 17:25:45
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Fixture of Dakka
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Raptors. They are Raven Guard devoted entirely to stealth tactics. So anyone saying Raven Guard is actually saying Raptors, since by their specific division, they were the ones focused on sneaking.
And Alpha Legion is wrong for at least two reasons: 1. they aren't a chapter. 2. They didn't use stealth as a battlefield strategy. They use infiltration and spying, not suddenly ambushing you with a thousand marines.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 19:11:26
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Anyone saying Night Lords is also wrong (even aside from them not being loyalists and thus ineligible for the thread).
The Night Lords make use of terror tactics. While that sometimes means being stealthy, it's only a means towards a very conspicuous end: letting the enemy know you are there, and making them piss themselves in fear before you even start the battle.
Night Lords would pull the classic movie badguy "leave the last guy alive and tell him to tell his boss who did this" move. Raven Guard would kill everyone and leave no calling card.
Raven Guard are spec ops. Night Lords are the freaking mafia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 19:20:28
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Grey Knights, can't get sneakier then teleporting in behind the enemy. Or making a shroud of darkness so you can't see them.
How can marines be stealthy though you could prob here them a mile off with power armour foot steps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 02:30:42
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Hellacious Havoc
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Bassline wrote:Grey Knights, can't get sneakier then teleporting in behind the enemy. Or making a shroud of darkness so you can't see them.
How can marines be stealthy though you could prob here them a mile off with power armour foot steps.
What?
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2000 pts Renegade Imperial Guard
1750 pts Chaos Undivided
1000pts Imperial Guard
750 pts Space Wolves
1000 pts Tau Empire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 02:32:07
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Ilove40k wrote:Bassline wrote:Grey Knights, can't get sneakier then teleporting in behind the enemy. Or making a shroud of darkness so you can't see them.
How can marines be stealthy though you could prob here them a mile off with power armour foot steps.
What?
Power armour foot steps.
They're a thing now...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 11:56:07
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Hellacious Havoc
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For having been in the Army, I think SM can walk stealthly with a power armor because even is I had 50+ lbs I could walk stealthly so I don't see why a super human with a power armor couldn't do this its all in the feet!
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2000 pts Renegade Imperial Guard
1750 pts Chaos Undivided
1000pts Imperial Guard
750 pts Space Wolves
1000 pts Tau Empire
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 12:12:46
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ilove40k wrote:For having been in the Army, I think SM can walk stealthly with a power armor because even is I had 50+ lbs I could walk stealthly so I don't see why a super human with a power armor couldn't do this its all in the feet!
Trenching through a forest, with power amour can you really go unnoticed? You will leave foot prints esp if you are the size of a super human and got power armour on. I am better those are not little boot prints as well. How can you be stealthy if you can be tracked?
Landing on a planet, thunderhawk or drop pod. Your making allot of noise and can be spotted with the naked eye to. Teleporting who can see a space ship in orbit teleporting down troops?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 12:51:10
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Madrid
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Bassline wrote: Teleporting who can see a space ship in orbit teleporting down troops?
No human I know
Seriously, do you tend to see all the satellites that orbit the earth?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 16:30:47
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Fixture of Dakka
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Bassline wrote:
Landing on a planet, thunderhawk or drop pod. Your making allot of noise and can be spotted with the naked eye to.
Yeah, I totally see all those orbital launches in Florida from here in Missouri. Oh wait, no...
Turns out planets are slightly larger than a grocery store parking lot.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/24 16:31:08
"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 17:40:23
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Slippery Scout Biker
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You would really have to define the "stealth" that you are talking about. Do you mean unable to be seen by the enemy or the best at ambushing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 12:19:35
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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CalgarsPimpHand wrote:Anyone saying Night Lords is also wrong (even aside from them not being loyalists and thus ineligible for the thread).
The Night Lords make use of terror tactics. While that sometimes means being stealthy, it's only a means towards a very conspicuous end: letting the enemy know you are there, and making them piss themselves in fear before you even start the battle.
This.
ADB in Soul Hunter wrote:
'Surprise is an insubstantial blade, a sword worthless in war.
It breaks when troops rally. It snaps when commanders hold the line.
But fear never fades.
Fear is a blade that sharpens with use.
So let the enemy know we come. Let their fears defeat them as everything falls dark.
As the world's sun sets...
As the city is wreathed in its final night...
Let ten thousand howls promise ten thousand claws.
The Night Lords are coming.
And no soul that stands against us shall see another dawn.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 16:58:21
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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IMO LotD are the stealthy one, kinda, well only when they arrive and leave. They come out of no where most of the time right in the middle of the enemy or behind them. Then they shoot ALL the bullets, make ALL the noise, kill ALL the xenos, then leave without a trace and never say a word the whole time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 23:55:00
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Sinewy Scourge
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Ilove40k wrote:For having been in the Army, I think SM can walk stealthly with a power armor because even is I had 50+ lbs I could walk stealthly so I don't see why a super human with a power armor couldn't do this its all in the feet!
I don't think weight is as much of a problem as the fact that power armor itself makes noise as it moves. It has to robotically match the movements of whoever is wearing it. It's probably going to make whirring noises at its most quiet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 02:39:31
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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The Raven Guard for all the reason stated above  .
Also Mantis Warriors have special sniper teams, not scouts in training but actual SM battle brothers sneaking around and sniping filthy xenos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/27 03:39:34
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Fireknife Shas'el
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I would say Raptors. Why? Because after looking at Lexicanum and IA 9, I realized that they were the closest in terms of Reasonable Marine tactics, which is exactly what I am going for.
Though I didn't realize that Mantis Warriors had devoted Sniper Teams.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 15:41:26
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Backspacehacker wrote:IMO LotD are the stealthy one, kinda, well only when they arrive and leave. They come out of no where most of the time right in the middle of the enemy or behind them. Then they shoot ALL the bullets, make ALL the noise, kill ALL the xenos, then leave without a trace and never say a word the whole time.
Make ALL the meme references!!!
And also QFT.
This and the two missing legions are definetely the most original posts in this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 23:05:32
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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Justicar Cliesthenes wrote:What does the dakka community think is the the stealthiest loyalist space marine chapter? Raptors? mantis Warriors? Raven Guard?
What are your thoughts? Out of the stealthy chapters which do you find the "coolest"
Propably Raven guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/29 06:33:38
Subject: Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Is there an absolute 'stealthiest' Chapter? There are plenty of Chapters whose doctrine deals with sneakiness, but there's no way to compare Chapters as a whole with each other on things like this, no metrics to compare that would let us work out which is 'stealthier'.
To my knowledge, the Raven Guard and Dark Angels among the original Legions tend to operate in more covert fashions than the rest, other 'stealthy' Chapters would probably be born of their gene-seed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/30 07:09:46
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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the raptors are commandos
the raven guards are raiders
the pre hh alpha legion is the most sophisticated one, almost subtle in their approach until the cut loose
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/30 07:26:20
Subject: Re:Stealthiest Space Marine Chapter
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Fully-charged Electropriest
Portland, OR by way of WI
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fluff says Raven Guard
it is their whole schtick
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