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HORRIBLE example. Nobody's buying Tau NOW.
Their sales would probably INCREASE, with people wanting to have certain "guaranteed" units ready to go (Fire Warriors, Battlesuits, etc) when the new Dex dropped.


Eric

htj wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:Fair enough. I will say, what if the new codex is terrible and you end up buying nothing and playing D&D instead? I'm not saying it's right, but i think GW would rather have your money immediately then take the chance you don't buy anything down the line because you aren't in the hobby in a couple of months or don't like the facelift.

Well, they're perfectly sensible to go down the route that would make them more money! However, the silence over upcoming stuff is not necessarily going to work out that way for them. I don't think people would be put off starting 40K by a new codex, especially if they're new to the game. New codices and models tend to increase sales of an army dramatically, after all. The route I would go down, in their situation, would be publicising what was coming and then offering discounts on the soon to be discountinued stuff to clear it out.

That's not the way GW want to do it, and that's their call. I do wish I could see what was coming though.

I guess the ultimate result of their behavior is that there are threads upon threads of speculation.....which is probably what they want

Well, it keeps us busy, doesn't it?

MagickalMemories wrote:HORRIBLE example. Nobody's buying Tau NOW.
Their sales would probably INCREASE, with people wanting to have certain "guaranteed" units ready to go (Fire Warriors, Battlesuits, etc) when the new Dex dropped.


Eric

well yeah..haha. But you get my point...

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:
the $ #'s sound about right...and yeah, I edited...big mac, I don't eat out too often...lol.

Also, I think GW pulled all of their mall stores out..there are still a few left, but I know that all of the mall stores in So Cal have been replaced by 1 man operations in strip malls.

I think as far as recruitment goes, it should be their #1 concern...people just leave the hobby due to finances, getting married, new interests...ect. W/O new hobbyists and active recruiting, the hobby would eventually die, like D&D did.

The only thing with that is is that higher ups are still expecting the same level of recruitment from areas with less foot traffic and less passing kids, sadly to say the mall "daycare" centers were great for recruiting kids, but they were too expensive to maintain. The one man stores are destination type shops which you would think would be designed to maintain and grow vets. It was the biggest problem I had with the company while I was working there; one half of the company is constantly in a state of trying figure out what the other half is doing.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:
I guess the ultimate question about complaining about a companies product in their retail establishment is why are you there if you dislike it so much? now..if you are just saying "them necrons are silly, this doesn't make any sense" that's one thing...but just going "Matt Ward is a turd, I HATE these new releases, Finecast SUCK"....well then, you should get the boot IMO

No no, all I was saying about the necron fluff was that it doesnt match up with some of the existing fluff, Alaitoc craftworld being 60 million years old rather then its current 10,000 ish is a big difference. If I made a huge scene about it then yeah I'd understand but I was talking to other friends that all already bought the book and have standing armies on vet night after I already bought necron models, so it seemed unnecessary to jump in with the ''hey guys if you're going to talk like that do it somewhere else".

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:well yeah..haha. But you get my point...

Actually, I don't. I couldn't be more in disagreement with you, regardless of which army you're referring to.


Eric

I believe GW may be leaking multiple false rumors to find the leaks and/or throw people off. Actually developing three boxes at once just to only make one though? That's preposterous. That's very expensive, and a lot of potentially wasted work. Finally, everything's been designed for quite some time now. They aren't still designing 2 months before release.

As for the Simpsons example, they wouldn't waste their time animating false endings to throw people off. Those false endings on who shot Mr. Burns were meant to be used as a joke in the episode where they explain it. Animation is expensive and potentially wasting the efforts of a studio isn't worth it. On top of that, there's also the rest of the episode which would need to be animated as well after the big reveal.

When did D&D die?

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

Lol, never, but the internet whinesquads do love their edition wars. (just wait until 6th edition actually drops, you'll be hearing people crying for the halcyon days of 4th and 5th edition when the game was awesome, so much better than it is now)

MagickalMemories wrote:

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

But rising from the ashes, like the phoenix, came Pathfinder...

helium42 wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

But rising from the ashes, like the phoenix, came Pathfinder...

I must say, Pathfinder does seem quite excellent. Just joined a gaming group for it and already they've driven a daemonic sword into a mental breakdown.

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:It's more then likely the fact that 99% of the rumours you hear are made up.

Which is why I stick with 2 rumor people

LunaHound wrote:

deggreg@yahoo.com wrote:It's more then likely the fact that 99% of the rumours you hear are made up.

Which is why I stick with 2 rumor people

And it is the reason why I stick with no rumour people. Also I realised that the rumours, or lack thereof, had zero impact on my spending habits and enjoyment of the hobby.

MagickalMemories wrote:

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

And yet people still play 4e.

I've sticked with 3.5e myself and we still play it. A lot of people still do. I think it's too silly to assume D&D "died".

heartserenade wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

And yet people still play 4e.

I've sticked with 3.5e myself and we still play it. A lot of people still do. I think it's too silly to assume D&D "died".

It is silly. Although it is worth nothing that WotC suffered quite a large drop in the market share over the course of 4E. They tried something risky, and it didn't pay off the way they had hoped, so they lost a lot of customers to rival companies. So D&D as a brand isn't dead, but it certainly took a blow with this most recent edition war.

Anyway, we're veering right off topic here.

htj wrote:

heartserenade wrote:

MagickalMemories wrote:

heartserenade wrote:When did D&D die?

When 4e was released.

Eric

And yet people still play 4e.

I've sticked with 3.5e myself and we still play it. A lot of people still do. I think it's too silly to assume D&D "died".

It is silly. Although it is worth nothing that WotC suffered quite a large drop in the market share over the course of 4E. They tried something risky, and it didn't pay off the way they had hoped, so they lost a lot of customers to rival companies. So D&D as a brand isn't dead, but it certainly took a blow with this most recent edition war.

Anyway, we're veering right off topic here.

D&D Edition wars in a GW rumors thread? Good job, folks. /slowclap.

pretre wrote:D&D Edition wars in a GW rumors thread? Good job, folks. /slowclap.

Patronising condescension with no discernable benefit? Par for the course, I guess.

htj wrote:

pretre wrote:D&D Edition wars in a GW rumors thread? Good job, folks. /slowclap.

Patronising condescension with no discernable benefit? Par for the course, I guess.

Wry commentary on a patronising post? Par for the course, I guess.

pretre wrote:

htj wrote:

pretre wrote:D&D Edition wars in a GW rumors thread? Good job, folks. /slowclap.

Patronising condescension with no discernable benefit? Par for the course, I guess.

Wry commentary on a patronising post? Par for the course, I guess.

Small four wheeled vehicle made for a cat? Car for the paws, I guess.

GET BACK ON TOPIC, DAMMIT!

BlapBlapBlap wrote:GET BACK ON TOPIC, DAMMIT!

You and I know full well that this topic is dead. Everything that's to be said has been said, we're just circling the drain now.

I suppose.