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2012/05/11 03:10:24
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
Shame that the scrabbling around in the dirt has already begun, although this time a pre-emptive strike by the Democrats. I guess we can expect a reply soon from the Republicans, although surely they exhausted most of their dirty-scrabbling in the last election (one which was particularly dirty IIRC?)
Wow. Some people never cease to amaze me by how stupid they are. Romney is horrible, he wants to demolish most Trading laws and make America complete free trade.
2012/05/11 10:49:36
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
On the other hand, I don't think we should be judging the suitability of political candidates by the stupid things they did in high school. I'm guessing Obama did some stupid stuff in high school too,
The teachers at the Mosques run a pretty tight ship...
Its a good thing the Washington Post came out with this review of Romney's past from 40 years ago. Its amazing time that it came out right after oabama announced he was pro gay marriage. I'm sure its just coincidence though.
Good thing WAPO performed such an indepth review of Obama's past when he was first running. I'll just flip back to it...wait its not there. It seems to have been misplaced somewhere.
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purplefood wrote:
biccat wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:I'm just wondering how the kid who got attacked is doing in life right now.
You didn't read the whole thing?
On June 12, 1965, Romney concluded his Cranbrook career at a commencement ceremony at the Christ Church, in which his father delivered a keynote address reported on by the local papers.
...
Forty years on, Mitt Romney accepted the school’s 2005 Distinguished Alumni Award.
A year earlier, John Joseph Lauber died at a Seattle hospital.
Clearly Romney murdered the guy using the Distinguished Alumni Award...
Must have been one of those heavy wooden plaques. I always said awards were just killer death machines waiting to happen.
Yes this all very terrible. At least we didn't find out he hung out with murdering bombers in college. It would be horrible if we had a presidential candidate who did that.
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Harriticus wrote:Are people really going after him for stupid gak he did in High School? I dare anyone to genuinely say they weren't a dick to someone at one point in the 13 year old to 20 year old period.
Someone? How about everyone?
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2012/05/11 12:23:51
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
On the positive if I had a time machine I'd fix a few problems...
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Betsy Lauber, one of John Lauber’s three sisters, spoke with ABC News Tuesday night regarding the accuracy of the story.
“The family of John Lauber is releasing a statement saying the portrayal of John is factually incorrect and we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda. There will be no more comments from the family,” she said.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/05/11 12:53:37
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/11 13:30:37
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
I've seen a few forms of defense for Romney on this:
1) LIE-BURAL MEDIA!!!!!
2) Teh gays had it coming!
3) Why does it matter? Something Obama something.
At the end of the day, we all do pretty awful things to each other as kids and in highschool. I know I did, at least.
What matters is how we grow from this. Accepting your own immaturity and insecurity and growing from it is incredibly helpful. I'm no fan of President Obama, he's another neoliberal stooge who is far more concerned with selling out the working class so he can appear moderate than anything else, but I've heard him tell stories of his past about how he grew from such experiences as a child.
That's why all of this matters. I doubt we'll get much more from Romney than, "I don't remember," or "there they go again making a mountain out of a mole hill".
Romney has failed to demonstrate that he is a human being with the capacity to grow, care for others, show empathy, or otherwise be a fully functioning adult who is mature emotionally and has a strong core of beliefs. Every time he is given a chance to do so he fails completely.
Hey Frazzled, why don't you link other parts from that article:
“Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn’t have said anything,” Christine Lauber said.
Or
She described her brother as a “very unusual person.”
Or
Christine Lauber, who is a few years older than John Lauber, was at college when the alleged incident happened, and said the brother and sister were “doing our own thing” at the time.
It's kind of weird of you, Frazzled, to remove a quote from that story without context so it helps your point of view. Man, and here I was thinking you were a trusted news source :(
2012/05/11 13:37:58
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
I linked the article. I figured the people thinking WAPO did anything but a hit piece (which has since been modified without comment by them) would not be swayed.
In the end I could care less. The election is Obama's performance review. We'll see if he gets the golden parachute or not.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/05/11 13:39:03
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
TheHammer wrote:
3) Why does it matter? Something Obama something.
The funny thing is the omitting the bold leaves a fairly good defense.
Of course, it also means ending the whole "You candidate is worse than my candidate!" thing which seems to emanate from media surrounding both parties.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2012/05/11 13:43:41
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
If this was President Obama's performance review than we would have elected President Kerry in 2004. The Republicans did a great job of nominating their own Kerry in 2012, so good on you guys.
Dogma, I find both candidates to be pretty awful. Their difference in most issues is fairly small (except foreign affairs, Daniel Larison does a good job of regularly talking about how flat out stupid Romney is here and that guy is a Republican) so a lot of my decision comes down to voting on the person.
I trust President Obama to grow as a person, learn from mistakes, and to just plain care about people and their interests far more than Romney. I think most of his policies are awful and stupid, but at least he isn't bourgeois scum without empathy.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, biccat and Ouze, if you are really comparing that Obama story to what Romney did you are awfully stupid and Just Don't Get It.
I don't think anyone that is upset at Romney for what he did is really upset at teenaged Romney being an entitled spanker: they're upset because he managed to grow into an adult who is still an entitled spanker.
If you actually read the rest of Obama's story involving Coretta you'd know that he felt awful about it and grew up from being a child that could sink into ugliness due to peer pressure.
But, hey, don't let me stop you from thinking you won a cheap point because of your eagerness to quote something out of context.
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2012/05/11 13:50:58
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
TheHammer wrote:
Also, biccat and Ouze, if you are really comparing that Obama story to what Romney did you are awfully stupid and Just Don't Get It.
While I agree that the two incidents aren't especially similar, I believe the main point was that both incidents are so far into the past that they're irrelevant.
TheHammer wrote:
I don't think anyone that is upset at Romney for what he did is really upset at teenaged Romney being an entitled spanker: they're upset because he managed to grow into an adult who is still an entitled spanker.
Keep in mind he bullied someone that was also probably an entitled little spanker. Cranbrook is expensive.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2012/05/11 13:55:50
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/05/11 14:00:09
Subject: Re:Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
biccat wrote:True, violence against women is much more serious.
You really can't be serious.
I can. Why don't you think that violence against women in our schools is something that needs to be addressed?
Amaya wrote:On topic, Romney is a prick and as much as I dislike Obama if it comes down to those two, I will vote for Obama just to vote against Romney.
Romney gave a gay guy a haircut. Obama hit a woman. Prioritize appropriately.
rockerbikie wrote:Wow. Some people never cease to amaze me by how stupid they are.
Holy crap, me too!
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2012/05/11 14:09:20
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
The irony of giving someone a haircut because they think he's a homosexual is droll - at least they stopped short of giving him a wax and pedicure. You know what they say about homophobes, perhaps there's something in it.
2012/05/11 14:20:21
Subject: Re:Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
Why is Biccat trolling this thread with a story about Obama giving a girl a 'slight shove' on the playground in what sounds like a middle school or younger environment and passing it off as a misogynistic beat down?
RossDas wrote:The irony of giving someone a haircut because they think he's a homosexual is droll - at least they stopped short of giving him a wax and pedicure. You know what they say about homophobes, perhaps there's something in it.
According to psychological studies, straight men who are homophobic tend to have a stronger arousal response from gay porn-- that is to say, by objective measures, they're turned on more by it than other straight men.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/11 14:24:03
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
biccat wrote:
Romney gave a gay guy a haircut. Obama hit a woman. Prioritize appropriately.
He hit a woman now? That doesn't seem to be what it says in the quoted text.
Though I suppose if your priority is distortion for political purposes, then sure, that's appropriate.
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Amaya wrote:Why is Biccat trolling this thread with a story about Obama giving a girl a 'slight shove' on the playground in what sounds like a middle school or younger environment and passing it off as a misogynistic beat down?
Because biccat trolls until he's seriously confronted, then he picks up his ball and goes home.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2012/05/11 14:28:14
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
And I beat a fellow teenager until he had an asthma attack (I had far less self-control back then), though admittedly the fight wasn't one-sided. But I've grown since then, and certainly Obama has grown since he was six years old-- puberty and adulthood do that to someone. Especially since he's done more for women in his term than the Republican party has even attempted to do during the same time period, it's obvious that he's no longer a six year old thinking "heehee cooties".
Meanwhile, Romney has shown that he isn't likely to be homophobic personally (an article I posted a week or two ago about one of Romney's staffers comes to mind), rather, he's just pushing homophobia for political reasons.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/11 14:28:21
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
TheHammer wrote:
Also, biccat and Ouze, if you are really comparing that Obama story to what Romney did you are awfully stupid and Just Don't Get It.
While I agree that the two incidents aren't especially similar, I believe the main point was that both incidents are so far into the past that they're irrelevant.
That's true, but perhaps it is the reaction to their re-appearance now that is different.
dogma wrote:
TheHammer wrote:
I don't think anyone that is upset at Romney for what he did is really upset at teenaged Romney being an entitled spanker: they're upset because he managed to grow into an adult who is still an entitled spanker.
Keep in mind he bullied someone that was also probably an entitled little spanker. Cranbrook is expensive.
Amaya wrote:Why is Biccat trolling this thread with a story about Obama giving a girl a 'slight shove' on the playground in what sounds like a middle school or younger environment and passing it off as a misogynistic beat down?
I'm not trolling. People are using this to compare Obama and Romney. Frankly, it's stupid, but if you're going to make a big deal about Romney's history, why not Obama's?
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Melissia wrote:Meanwhile, Romney has shown that he isn't likely to be homophobic personally (an article I posted a week or two ago about one of Romney's staffers comes to mind), rather, he's just pushing homophobia for political reasons.
...like Obama did until two days ago.
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2012/05/11 14:35:56
Subject: Re:Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
biccat wrote:...like Obama did until two days ago.
You don't get out much do you? Or pay attention to anything other than your conservative talking heads?
Obama had supported civil unions almost all of his political career. At the start of his presidential term, he said his position was "evolving." And here we see what it has evolved in to-- valuing personal freedoms over religious extremism. A pity he takes a federalist view, but then again, it's not like he could actually do anything to change it anyway with congress essentially being stonewalled in to doing little to nothing outside of emergencies.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2012/05/11 14:37:23
Subject: Re:Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
Amaya wrote:Why is Biccat trolling this thread with a story about Obama giving a girl a 'slight shove' on the playground in what sounds like a middle school or younger environment and passing it off as a misogynistic beat down?
Because WAPO dragged up a story older than your parents about a school hazing and you're making it out like he ran around in white sheets with a torch leading the Klan on a crusade against the Tenderloin district?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2012/05/11 14:40:06
Subject: Homosexual? At Romney's school? That's a forced haircutting
I'm always happy to hate on Romney, but this is a storm in a teacup.
At the end of the day, you do daft gak when your a kid. So he called someone a cigarette and cut his hair.. big deal.
Surely even the most dyed in democrat wouldn't think its a big mark against him?
Hang on ill ask the missus..
...
Yeah she said its stupid gak, and there are thousands of other actual decent reasons not to vote for him.
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