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Ratius

That's not what she said.

Ask her again!

Yes I keep all my armeis caucasian, why? Because I dont want a ghetto force running around!

This kind of remark will not be tolerated on DakkaDakka.

~Manchu

I think IG could be any color really, I have actually never thought about that....and I don't have IG, but if I do...I'd make an attempt to make them a variety of colors I guess.

Now, Adeptus Astartes, are going to be the color of their primarch. I'm assuming the gene seed, along with all of the other stuff it does, would change the skin color to at least approximate the primarch. I always assumed Scars were asian, salamanders were black and Fists were hispanic due to their gene seed.

I don't think there would be any black Space Wolves or Hispanic Blood Angels TBH

Trondheim wrote:Yes I keep all my armeis caucasian, why? Because I dont want a ghetto force running around!

The fact that you spelled 'armies' wrong on a wargaming site, coupled with your ignorant remark, leads one to suspect that you're a moron.



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I've got a couple of dark skinned CSMs, no major reason behind it, just thought it added a bit of variety to my relatively small army.

Wow, someone has not read any 40K/other sci-fi fiction.

Salamanders (dark skinned), Dark Elves (pale skinned), and etc.

Why are all the Orks GREEN? Why not pink?

Why are the Skaven not shaved?

Bottom line; the painters choice

or a better explanation; only rich white kids can afford to buy this crap.

you choose

Really stupid post, and does not belong here.

dkellyj wrote:I know a guy that did an IG Penal legion all in orange clothes and all of them Black (African American for the PC crowd). Everyone just gave him that 'have you lost your mind' look and suggested he repaint them.

My IG are British based. My orks are blue skinned (methane world mutation). My Marines are are washed with a dark tan skin. I'm currently working on a Japanese themed army.
But most people go with Caucasian because that is the paint color produced by GW.

Could we get a picture of your british IG?

Ease up on the personal comments guys, if you feel somethings outta line report it, no point in getting the thread locked.

I have my jurrassic park based dudes

http://imgur.com/a/V2zET#0

and my praetorians, obviously british based.

http://imgur.com/a/m9L1P#0

My marines are a mix.

rexscarlet wrote:Bottom line; the painters choice

An excellent point.

rexscarlet wrote:
or a better explanation; only rich white kids can afford to buy this crap.

rexscarlet wrote:
Really stupid post, and does not belong here.

You had me up to here. What's wrong with the post, and where does it belong instead? It is about painting. And there's nothing wrong with a frank discussion of race. Just because you don't see an issue doesn't mean it isn't an issue to other people. And it certainly isn't a "really stupid post."

Orinoco wrote:I have my jurrassic park based dudes

http://imgur.com/a/V2zET#0

...quite possibly one of the most absurd army paint schemes I've seen.

I'm not sure if I mean that in a good way or a bad way. Certainly unique!

carlos13th wrote:

dkellyj wrote:I know a guy that did an IG Penal legion all in orange clothes and all of them Black (African American for the PC crowd). Everyone just gave him that 'have you lost your mind' look and suggested he repaint them.

My IG are British based. My orks are blue skinned (methane world mutation). My Marines are are washed with a dark tan skin. I'm currently working on a Japanese themed army.
But most people go with Caucasian because that is the paint color produced by GW.

Could we get a picture of your british IG?

Yeah...

I'm assuming that a British themed IG would be racially diverse?

biccat wrote:

Orinoco wrote:I have my jurrassic park based dudes

http://imgur.com/a/V2zET#0

...quite possibly one of the most absurd army paint schemes I've seen.

I'm not sure if I mean that in a good way or a bad way. Certainly unique!

Ironworker wrote:I'm curious how often most war gamers add non Caucasian troops to their units when painting them up. I've made it a conscious effort for as long as I can remember to paint some of my troopers up with African, Asian, Latin, ect... skin tones. I'm wondering how many other people do that.

It bothers me when I look at Games Workshop's officially painted armies and product shots and I see only Caucasian troopers except in the units that are specifically non Caucasian. Other companies do this too sometimes.

I don't care about political correctness but it smacks me as very unrealistic. It also isn't doing much to promote the hobby outside of the non white male population.

I'm not flame bating or trying to start some kind of race debate. I just want to know how many other gamers paint non Caucasians into their armies and collections.

by the year 3000 all races on earth will become ONE RACE (white i think because its most domminante? i might be wrong but its either white or south east asian) because of interracial couples that have interracial babies and then that baby grows up and has a baby with another interacial couple... and yeah you get where it is going. and seeing as white skin and features are more dominante than black they will all turn out white... or at least closer to white. google this kind of thing youl find an answer from lots of real legit sources not just from me

A vanilla Space Marine force should have all the marines the same colour if you're going 'fluffy' with them. In a couple of the HH books (Thousand Sons and another one I think) it mentions that one of the gene enhancements of an Astartes is that their skin pigmentation alters within a very short time frame to darken/lighten the skin based on the amount of solar radiation present.
Basically to be fluffy you can paint them any colour you like as long as they are all a similar colour, but my personal view is that as you paid for the models you can paint them green with pink spots and if people don't like it then tough.

Also have you noticed how a lot of sci -fi zones planets into single biomes? Is this partly the fault of Tattoine, Dagobah and Hoth (with a side order of Arrakis) being engrained on our collective unconscious I wonder?

*edited for spelling/grammar fail*

First off I'd like to bore you all with some spiel about the Guard army I'm currently working on before arriving at a more relevant point.

I think the only thing I can really add to this is that when the Imperium colonizes certain planets, they tend to kill off the local populace and just keep the kids to be re-educated. This is what happened in Flesh and Iron, which was kinda based off the Vietnam War. They knocked off the citizens and brought in their own people to work the land. Just one more explanation though.

mould2k wrote:

carlos13th wrote:

dkellyj wrote:I know a guy that did an IG Penal legion all in orange clothes and all of them Black (African American for the PC crowd). Everyone just gave him that 'have you lost your mind' look and suggested he repaint them.

My IG are British based. My orks are blue skinned (methane world mutation). My Marines are are washed with a dark tan skin. I'm currently working on a Japanese themed army.
But most people go with Caucasian because that is the paint color produced by GW.

Could we get a picture of your british IG?

Yeah...

I'm assuming that a British themed IG would be racially diverse?

Exactly what I was going to write!

I paint all my units caucasian because I'm too cheap to buy another vile of paint just to change skin color.

It's obviously the painter's choice.
But fluff wise there is definitely some all-white and all-black most likely. And still the Imperium is a very racist place, so there might be more than we think.
I think that this thread is quite stupid; the OP should known that this can only lead to a racial debate. Most of my armies are all caucasian, but that is just because I play armies with fluff that suits that skin color.

it's not much of a concern, rather what is, is when i can find a pot of paint that actually has paint in it so i can paint my miniatures. i pretty much have every army beside daemons, necron and dark eldar, i'd like to see some "black" necrons, some flesh coloured tyranids and some orange skinned spacemarines, but TBH for the most part it just wouldn't fit the chosen armies background. (sure some IG regiments might look darker or varied skin tones ie IG "Tallarn" or Catachan *originally painted to look viet-cong*, for the most caucasian is they are in the "majority" of most worlds of the imperium.)..... each player can paint there miniatures the way they imagine their warriors to look. i for one see all my marines as an off-white/tan mix as it's easy to mix the same pigmentation. my orks are green-yellow and tyranids are mix of bright neon alien-ish colours. my tau are "darker skin toned though. but it stands inline with the dark anime future cop look (black blue armour black clothes and some dark red detailing with a heavy black wash, with a black-bluey grey skin tone)

I play Wood Elves and Dark Eldar, so nope (but my Eldar are essentially Dark within, so no problems with that). I also believe that some of my DE female wyches might be interested in other female wyches/warriors, the same for males, but I don't care to represent it on my miniatures. I also tend not to field physically handicapped Dark Eldar, since I believe that they get disposed pretty quickly but their own - such are the rules of their society. So sad.

I paint an assortment of skin tones, unless going for a theme. My valhallans are Russian, so they're white, but I have black cadians, and asian, black, and native catachans. I plan on painting a full on african death squad army some day, so they'll all be black.

Also that Ingen army rocks

Aerethan wrote:Dark skin varies wildly

How come the just the dark skin has to vary wildly? Just kidding.

This is why Tyranids are so appealing to me. I prefer my meta to mean if my opponents typically bring tanks, not trying to play a subgame of if I'm treating every race with maximum equality.
If racial slurs are uttered during my games, they're about Eldar or Tau, because we're playing a fantasy sci fi wargame. Not find the secret racist.

I only really use GW paints and i'm a great painter so to be honest i'm not sure how to do most skin tones.

I use Tallarn, with Ogryn skin wash for some of my guys and Dark flesh for others. I've never made a concerted effor to make sure there are equal number of officer in each tone but that seem a little riduculous.

I would like to add other tones to my army but always felt worried about asking people "how to I paint [Insert Tone]".

If anyone has any easy tips for Asian, be it oriental or Indian sub continent, skin tones it would be appreicated.

Not to be insensitive, but White skin tones are a lot easier to paint. Most people will default to White for that reason. Accurate non-White skin tones are a challenge, especially Black skin, so to avoid horrible and possibly offensive stereotypes, people might just take the easy option.

I did the same thing once...I painted an entire traitor guard force. Called them the 383rd Penal Division. They were all minorities, all in orange jump suits with numbers on the back and leg; each squad was chained at the angle, and each "squad leader" was a white guy in a guards outfit with a baton....who always lead from the back. How is that for politically incorrect?

quickfuze wrote:I did the same thing once...I painted an entire traitor guard force. Called them the 383rd Penal Division. They were all minorities, all in orange jump suits with numbers on the back and leg; each squad was chained at the angle, and each "squad leader" was a white guy in a guards outfit with a baton....who always lead from the back. How is that for politically incorrect?

Did he have a whip and made them sing as well you terrible person?

I'm not sure if I'd feel good playing against you, I'd be guilty every time I ordered my troops to shoot at your chain gangs...

dkellyj wrote:But most people go with Caucasian because that is the paint color produced by GW.

Oh yes, that very well known colour - Caucasian flesh.



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