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Why would you use Assault Marines against Mech Ork? Isn't the whole point of Assault Marines to use your mobility to neuter furious charge?

A squad of Boyz that gets assaulted loses like half of its combat relevance.

By contrast, if you're using assault marines, the question is, how are you going to pop the transport? If you're relying on CC, well, plan on getting assaulted by 12 mad Slugga Boyz as soon as you do so...

TedNugent wrote:Why would you use Assault Marines against Mech Ork? Isn't the whole point of Assault Marines to use your mobility to neuter furious charge?

A squad of Boyz that gets assaulted loses like half of its combat relevance.

By contrast, if you're using assault marines, the question is, how are you going to pop the transport? If you're relying on CC, well, plan on getting assaulted by 12 mad Slugga Boyz as soon as you do so...

Perhaps with meltaguns? You know, by shooting a vehicle with meltaguns, and then assaulting the contents? Also, I don't think that any squad of assault marines worth their teef- I mean jump packs are going to worry about 12 mad slugga boyz.

loota boy wrote:

TedNugent wrote:Why would you use Assault Marines against Mech Ork? Isn't the whole point of Assault Marines to use your mobility to neuter furious charge?

A squad of Boyz that gets assaulted loses like half of its combat relevance.

By contrast, if you're using assault marines, the question is, how are you going to pop the transport? If you're relying on CC, well, plan on getting assaulted by 12 mad Slugga Boyz as soon as you do so...

Perhaps with meltaguns? You know, by shooting a vehicle with meltaguns, and then assaulting the contents? Also, I don't think that any squad of assault marines worth their teef- I mean jump packs are going to worry about 12 mad slugga boyz.

Why not just pop the transports with something else and then shoot the contents? Once you've popped their transport they have to footslog, making them a far easier fight than engaging 12 Slugga Boyz in CC.

MadmanMSU wrote:More than likely, Mephiston and Ghaz would never fight, period

Exactly. For the same reason Eldrad and Thrakka shouldn't ever fight, or a Trygon Prime and Thrakka. There is no point tossing 225 points of death at something it can't reliably kill, even if the odds are in your favour. Especially if you have tools to handle them in your very army.

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But Ghaz *does* have Eternal Warrior, right? It would be silly if he didn't.

Actually, he doesn't. He has a piece of wargear called "Adamantium Skull", which counts as cybork body as well as making him immune to instant death and better at headbutting - thus +2 attacks on the charge.

thanks for the advice

TedNugent wrote:

loota boy wrote:

TedNugent wrote:Why would you use Assault Marines against Mech Ork? Isn't the whole point of Assault Marines to use your mobility to neuter furious charge?

A squad of Boyz that gets assaulted loses like half of its combat relevance.

By contrast, if you're using assault marines, the question is, how are you going to pop the transport? If you're relying on CC, well, plan on getting assaulted by 12 mad Slugga Boyz as soon as you do so...

Perhaps with meltaguns? You know, by shooting a vehicle with meltaguns, and then assaulting the contents? Also, I don't think that any squad of assault marines worth their teef- I mean jump packs are going to worry about 12 mad slugga boyz.

Why not just pop the transports with something else and then shoot the contents? Once you've popped their transport they have to footslog, making them a far easier fight than engaging 12 Slugga Boyz in CC.

Because if a squad pops the trukk those 12 mad slugga boyz are in, it's probably going to explode, which kills 4 boyz. Just five Blood Angels assault marines charging into that ought to take care of it. I'm not saying that popping the transport and having them walk doesn't work, but why? 12 slugga boyz just aren't that scary to BA assault marines who just shot them out of their transport. The pk will eat one, but the marines strike first and kill off most of the squad right there. I don't know what your trying to say here really. DoA can neuter furious charge just fine. Trukk boyz aren't super scary to BA.