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hotsauceman1 wrote:If you give him a drop pod and know where to put him, give him a heavy flamer he can deal death.
But dont get the forgeworld one. Get a Venerable dreadnaught arm.
ANd yes, rifleman dreads are nice. I love them,

Yeah, that does seem the best bet. Mind giving me the reason why not? FW tends to put out high-quality stuff, or so I'm always told.

Yeah, them Riflemen are good. I'm still disappointed I can't get a Plasman. :/ I think that'd really be where the Plasma Cannon would have its up over the AC.

If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:If you give him a drop pod and know where to put him, give him a heavy flamer he can deal death.
But dont get the forgeworld one. Get a Venerable dreadnaught arm.
ANd yes, rifleman dreads are nice. I love them,

Yeah, that does seem the best bet. Mind giving me the reason why not? FW tends to put out high-quality stuff, or so I'm always told.

Yeah, them Riflemen are good. I'm still disappointed I can't get a Plasman. :/ I think that'd really be where the Plasma Cannon would have its up over the AC.

Well you can, but in the end, if you just want the arms, its cheaper for the plastic venerable one.

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

ForgeWorld is fine, and even in IAA2E is official, though you should still ask first just to make sure that they understand what it is.

The Contemptor isn't beardy in the least IME.

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

ForgeWorld is fine, and even in IAA2E is official, though you should still ask first just to make sure that they understand what it is.

The Contemptor isn't beardy in the least IME.

Righton. What about the details? I know exact point costs is a no-no, but how much of a ballpark figure am I looking at, over the OG Dred? On top of that, besides weapon selection, what benefits do I get, and is it worth the cost?

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

ForgeWorld is fine, and even in IAA2E is official, though you should still ask first just to make sure that they understand what it is.

The Contemptor isn't beardy in the least IME.

Righton. What about the details? I know exact point costs is a no-no, but how much of a ballpark figure am I looking at, over the OG Dred? On top of that, besides weapon selection, what benefits do I get, and is it worth the cost?

The twin assault cannon dreadnought is the Mortis-Pattern Contemptor. Tougher than a normal dread with +1 FA and an invulnerable save. Base price for 2x Twin Linked Heavy Bolters is slightly more than an IG Leman Russ, and with the Kheres Assault Cannons goes up by 17%. This is without any other upgrades, which include a CML, Extra Armor, etc.

Fully upgraded, the 2x Assault Cannon Mortis-Pattern Contemptor is roughly 220% more expensive than a regular, no-upgrades dreadnought.

Also of note is that if it remains stationary it gains the AA Mount rule

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

ForgeWorld is fine, and even in IAA2E is official, though you should still ask first just to make sure that they understand what it is.

The Contemptor isn't beardy in the least IME.

Righton. What about the details? I know exact point costs is a no-no, but how much of a ballpark figure am I looking at, over the OG Dred? On top of that, besides weapon selection, what benefits do I get, and is it worth the cost?

The twin assault cannon dreadnought is the Mortis-Pattern Contemptor. Tougher than a normal dread with +1 FA and an invulnerable save. Base price for 2x Twin Linked Heavy Bolters is slightly more than an IG Leman Russ, and with the Kheres Assault Cannons goes up by 17%. This is without any other upgrades, which include a CML, Extra Armor, etc.

Fully upgraded, the 2x Assault Cannon Mortis-Pattern Contemptor is roughly 220% more expensive than a regular, no-upgrades dreadnought.

Also of note is that if it remains stationary it gains the AA Mount rule

Pfff.... That ain't cheap. Not at all. But my guess is that Invuln save will be puttin' in work. Do you think it's all worth it? And what about those Heavy Conversion Beamers?

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Unit1126PLL wrote:

TermiesInARaider wrote:

Praxiss wrote:If you want dual Assault Cannons you will have to go the Contemptor route.

Hm, thought of that. I've been told that people generally see FW stuff as beardy, just because of the Assault Ram shenanigans, but what's the lowdown on the Contemptor? I have no idea what it costs in terms of points, or weather its effective.

ForgeWorld is fine, and even in IAA2E is official, though you should still ask first just to make sure that they understand what it is.

The Contemptor isn't beardy in the least IME.

Righton. What about the details? I know exact point costs is a no-no, but how much of a ballpark figure am I looking at, over the OG Dred? On top of that, besides weapon selection, what benefits do I get, and is it worth the cost?

The twin assault cannon dreadnought is the Mortis-Pattern Contemptor. Tougher than a normal dread with +1 FA and an invulnerable save. Base price for 2x Twin Linked Heavy Bolters is slightly more than an IG Leman Russ, and with the Kheres Assault Cannons goes up by 17%. This is without any other upgrades, which include a CML, Extra Armor, etc.

Fully upgraded, the 2x Assault Cannon Mortis-Pattern Contemptor is roughly 220% more expensive than a regular, no-upgrades dreadnought.

Also of note is that if it remains stationary it gains the AA Mount rule

Pfff.... That ain't cheap. Not at all. But my guess is that Invuln save will be puttin' in work. Do you think it's all worth it? And what about those Heavy Conversion Beamers?

No, it isn't cheap, but you really pay for the durability and +1 BS (which I forgot to mention btw).

Heavy Conversion Beamers are cool, but you must remain stationary to fire them, so meh. They're more of a fluff choice than anything; that said, I have 2. And yes, it's worth it. After all, you save quite a bit by dropping the CML (for example).

Hm... All in all, interesting stuff. Gotta think, but there may be some Contemptor dreds in my future...

And Land Raiders... And Predators, Stormtalons, and a Whirlwind, and a Vindicator, and more standard Dreds, and Razorbacks, and... Whole bunches of stuff. xP

As I've said twice before on this site. Another time, another mortgage.

Edit: I'm not actually taking out a second mortgage do pay for 40k stuff. Ever. That would be SO irresponsible.

just to so you know, the Mortis pattern contemptor can also take dual Plasma Cannons.

Praxiss wrote:just to so you know, the Mortis pattern contemptor can also take dual Plasma Cannons.

Awesome awesome! Yeah, when I heard it could take dual ACs, I kinda assumed that too.

Or if you are feeling suicidal, MM/Missle launcher on a drop pod to kill vehicles from behind.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Or if you are feeling suicidal, MM/Missle launcher on a drop pod to kill vehicles from behind.

Good lord no. xD May be effective, but I can't do something like that. My Crimson Fists would NEVER equip a valued, ancient brother for a suicide mission.

Then i have been doing it wrong this whole time.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Then i have been doing it wrong this whole time.

I mean, it could work. It's not a kit I've really ever seen before, so I honestly don't know, but it could work. But if you play Crimson Fists for their fluff... Then yeah, that'd be doing it wrong. xD

The FW Contemptor Mortis can do that. 2 x heavy 6 assault cannons at BS 5

Lightcavalier wrote:The FW Contemptor Mortis can do that. 2 x heavy 6 assault cannons at BS 5

Put the missle launcher on his shoulders and start going to town!

kronk wrote:

Lightcavalier wrote:The FW Contemptor Mortis can do that. 2 x heavy 6 assault cannons at BS 5

Put the missle launcher on his shoulders and start going to town!

Can it fire all three weapons at once? If so, I think I just got high off imagined carnage.

I would think so. I'm pretty sure walkers can move 6" and fire everything so it could fire off 2x6 assault cannon shots and a volley from a cyclone launcher.

Would be pretty expensive though.


EDIT - withotu quotign exact amounts...for the above setup you are looking at close to Land Raider points.

Praxiss wrote:I would think so. I'm pretty sure walkers can move 6" and fire everything so it could fire off 2x6 assault cannon shots and a volley from a cyclone launcher.

Would be pretty expensive though.


EDIT - withotu quotign exact amounts...for the above setup you are looking at close to Land Raider points.

Yeah, that much I gathered... Does it take up an elite or a heavy support slot? Because still, that's just awesome stuff right there. I'd say, easily worth them points.

The Mortis pattern is a Heavy Support choice.

Praxiss wrote:The Mortis pattern is a Heavy Support choice.

Ah, that's it, then. There's the kicker. IIRC, a standard Mortis Dred is still an Elite? I could be wrong.

Pass.

I'd say if you can afford it the mortis Contemptor is still worth looking at. While it is expensive it looks like it could be pretty durable, also if it stay still its weapons count as having the anti-Air mount rule.....which coudl be handy when 6th ed comes round.

I suppose that's the ticket, then! xD Besides, I don't have to field the Contemptor every time I play.

Exactly. I am considering getting the Chaos one once the model comes out......or the Decimator. They both look sweet!!!!