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labmouse42 wrote:Under the current meta, attack bikes really die fast. Before psydreads and ML spam was common, they were better.
Now a days, one psydread does not have that much of a problem killing 2 of the bikes.

What? A psydread will on average do 32/9 hits, 160/54 wounds, 160/162 unsaved-- so a psyfledread volley will on average kill about one Attack Bike (slightly less, but this shouldn't be huge). Further, since you can entirely screen two Attack Bikes behind a Rhino, this doesn't strike me as a huge concern. Attack Bikes should never be shot at until you take your shots, and perhaps not even then (depending on your deployment). You can also use assault with Attack Bikes very effectively-- if you turbo two Attack Bikes towards a Psyfleman around 36" away, he can shoot and probably kill one, but the remaining bike will still get to not only take a close-range multi-melta shot, but also charge the Psyfleman and likely tie it up for quite some time if the MM fails to take it out. This is also something of a worst-case scenario-- so in my mind, a unit that has a strong chance of killing or at least neutralizing its purported counter has a lot going for it!

Landspeeders are worth it.
Dual HB speeders are great in units as large as 3. You can move and shoot up to 18 HB shots per turn. This makes a mess of many units.
Melta HF are great anti armor and anti infantry units. These are good in units of two. Three is overkill
Single Typhoons are great for their ability to maneuver and fire 2 ML shots per turn. Great for use as harassers.
The landspeeder storm is my personal favorite. The amount of alpha strike that it can bring is rediculous. I cant say how many landraiders have burned on turn one. If you position it centrally in your line you can hit anywhere on the board, deposit a unit of scouts with a combi melta and a power fist. A major threat to almost any unit.
In short i would say that landspeeders are awesome.