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Shredsmore wrote:

Barksdale wrote:A bullet is alot cheaper than all of these alternatives.

QFT.

Why waste money when we could end his miserable life?

Why end his miserable life when you can prolong his misery?

Death creates martyrs unless you completely break the person beforehand, Room 101 style.

Chongara wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Chongara wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:Didn't some guy set himself on fire as a protest against this guy?

If I was the father or brother of one of his victims, I would gladly sign-up to play "Hockey" with the guy... I really doubt the guards would be fast enough to keep someone from bashing his head in with an hockey stick...

This person is bad because he killed people and killing people is bad. So let's kill that person.

Yes, because we all know how capital punishment is such successful determent to crime.

Exactly! I mean not only is crime deterrence a valid reason for taking a human life, all the data supports that it does that job extremely well. The US has more executions than anywhere in the developed world! That's why our violent crime rate is so much lower than everywhere else.

Nothing like some good old righteous human death. Fry those suckers up and put their nuts in some justice stew.

I used to think that the rate of violent crime (and crime in general) in the US was much greater than it is in Sweden, but I've not found any comparable data to back it up. Census.gov lists eight types of crime, whereas the Swedish counterpart, BRÅ, lists 531 different types of crime, thus making comparison more or less impossible. I realize this might be a tad off-topic, but does anyone know if there's a more thorough source of statistics for the US than census.gov?

Cheesecat wrote:

Chongara wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:Didn't some guy set himself on fire as a protest against this guy?

If I was the father or brother of one of his victims, I would gladly sign-up to play "Hockey" with the guy... I really doubt the guards would be fast enough to keep someone from bashing his head in with an hockey stick...

This person is bad because he killed people and killing people is bad. So let's kill that person.

Yes, because we all know how capital punishment is such successful determent to crime.

I don't care about capital punishment being a determent or not, guys like him just don't deserve to be alive.

PhantomViper wrote:

I don't care about capital punishment being a determent or not, guys like him just don't deserve to be alive.

And where do you draw the line on who "Deserves to be alive"?

If they kill 5 people, what about 5 kids? 7,8?

Add some water to that slope and you'll have a really good slip'n'slide, so watch out...

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
And where do you draw the line on who "Deserves to be alive"?

If they kill 5 people, what about 5 kids? 7,8?

Add some water to that slope and you'll have a really good slip'n'slide, so watch out...

If you kill 1 person in anything other than an accident or self defence, you suffer the same fate as the person you killed.

Nice and simple.

Oh damn, turns out it was self defence after all/he wasn't the guy who killed someone.

Oh well he's dead now. Shame that.

MrDwhitey wrote:Oh damn, turns out it was self defence after all/he wasn't the guy who killed someone.

Oh well he's dead now. Shame that.

Oooopsie?!

So you're fine with executing innocent people?*

*Just making sure I debate in the proper accusing format that puts words in other peoples mouths.

PhantomViper wrote:
If you kill 1 person in anything other than an accident or self defence, you suffer the same fate as the person you killed.

Nice and simple.

Mahatma Gandhi: "An-eye-for-an-eye-for-an-eye-for-an-eye ... ends in making everybody blind."

"What, oh this crowd of kids on an island? No they were attacking me! Self defence officer I say!"

Yeah no, this case should set a precedent that if you mass murder and claim responsibility you should definately get the chair.

MrDwhitey wrote:So you're fine with executing innocent people?*

*Just making sure I debate in the proper accusing format that puts words in other peoples mouths.

He wasn't innocent, he was declared guilty of those crimes by whatever legal system was in place in this fictional location.

If at a further date, that legal system was found to be insufficient to accurately declare someone as either guilty or innocent, then we better fix the problem that allowed that mistake to happen! The poor sob that got killed by that mistake should be happy that his sacrifice will help prevent the same thing from happening to someone else. It was very altruistic of him, really!

Private_Joker wrote:"What, oh this crowd of kids on an island? No they were attacking me! Self defence officer I say!"

Yeah no, this case should set a precedent that if you mass murder and claim responsibility you should definately get the chair.

If norwegians hadn't declaired capital punishment un-Norwegian and removed it from their justice system, we'd be watching his funeral by now

@Phantomviper

You would really accept condemning an innocent person to death as a reasonable cost for identifying a flaw in the system?

PhantomViper wrote:
If you kill 1 person in anything other than an accident or self defence, you suffer the same fate as the person you killed.

Nice and simple.

I can imagine the hilarious chain of executions now, each executioner being killed in turn for killing the previous one until all the loonies who support this concept were gone.

lord_blackfang wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
If you kill 1 person in anything other than an accident or self defence, you suffer the same fate as the person you killed.

Nice and simple.

I can imagine the hilarious chain of executions now, each executioner being killed in turn for killing the previous one until all the loonies who support this concept were gone.

That's a good point, techinally, unless the axe 'fell on his neck' so to speak, the executioner is a state sponsored hitman. (according to phantoms idea)

lord_blackfang wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:
If you kill 1 person in anything other than an accident or self defence, you suffer the same fate as the person you killed.

Nice and simple.

I can imagine the hilarious chain of executions now, each executioner being killed in turn for killing the previous one until all the loonies who support this concept were gone.

Except for the last one.

There can only be one Highlander!

Well! I'm going to swing my axe like this, and if you get in the way it's your owwwwwwn fault.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:
You would really accept condemning an innocent person to death as a reasonable cost for identifying a flaw in the system?

If that person was me or someone that I cared about? No.

If that hypothetical person didn't fit into the above category? Absolutely!


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lord_blackfang wrote:
I can imagine the hilarious chain of executions now, each executioner being killed in turn for killing the previous one until all the loonies who support this concept were gone.

You've got to love leftist "morality".

Noting beats wishing death on other people for having a different opinion than theirs while at the same time defending that everyone has the right to live (unless that person disagrees with them, in which case they should die...). Priceless!

PhantomViper wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:
I can imagine the hilarious chain of executions now, each executioner being killed in turn for killing the previous one until all the loonies who support this concept were gone.

You've got to love leftist "morality".

Noting beats wishing death on other people for having a different opinion than theirs while at the same time defending that everyone has the right to live (unless that person disagrees with them, in which case they should die...). Priceless!

Hey, us lefties aren't wishing death on anyone. We're just pointing out that they guy swinging the axe is killing the other dude, so then he needs to be killed and so on and so forth until the only people left are those who support the idea but won't swing the axe themselves and those who don't support the idea at all who therefore aren't going to swing the axe.

So at the end you've got one killer, who ends up with a life sentence due to there being no executioner left to kill him and a court full of people who are against the death penalty and then the world carries on without capital punishment.

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Shredsmore wrote:

Barksdale wrote:A bullet is alot cheaper than all of these alternatives.

QFT.

Why waste money when we could end his miserable life?

Why end his miserable life when you can prolong his misery?

Death creates martyrs unless you completely break the person beforehand, Room 101 style.

I like your thinking! Break out the rats!